DM41X ED$Bug in SLOW-mode 11-06-2020, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2020 04:56 PM by JurgenRo.) Post: #1  JurgenRo Member Posts: 176 Joined: Jul 2015 DM41X ED$ Bug in SLOW-mode
While working with ASCII-files with Ángels ED$, I observed the following 2 missbehaviors with the machine being in SLOW-mode. 1st: The Display "flickers". This phenomenon is not quite predictable in that the "flicker" occurs either sporadically (with a couple of seconds between 2 flickers) or continuously with the "frequence" of the blinking cursor almost with the "impression" of a continuos scrolling (making it entirely impossible to work with the file). Mostly, the sporadic flicker occurs when creating the file, while the continous flicker occurs when opening an existing file. 2nd: While ED$ is active (and behaves like described above) the machine seems to be in a state of raised power consumption: The battery indicator drops (in case of a fresh battery) from 4 bars to 3 bars. The 4 bars are shown again after exiting ED$. ED$ seems to work regularly when the machine is in FAST-mode, though.

Edit: Typo
11-06-2020, 06:55 PM
Post: #2
 rprosperi Senior Member Posts: 5,018 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: DM41X ED$Bug in SLOW-mode (11-06-2020 04:52 PM)JurgenRo Wrote: While working with ASCII-files with Ángels ED$, I observed the following 2 missbehaviors with the machine being in SLOW-mode.

1st: The Display "flickers". This phenomenon is not quite predictable in that the "flicker" occurs either sporadically (with a couple of seconds between 2 flickers) or continuously with the "frequence" of the blinking cursor almost with the "impression" of a continuos scrolling (making it entirely impossible to work with the file).
Mostly, the sporadic flicker occurs when creating the file, while the continous flicker occurs when opening an existing file.

2nd: While ED$is active (and behaves like described above) the machine seems to be in a state of raised power consumption: The battery indicator drops (in case of a fresh battery) from 4 bars to 3 bars. The 4 bars are shown again after exiting ED$.

ED$seems to work regularly when the machine is in FAST-mode, though. Edit: Typo Thanks for posting this, and with lots of details. Is this with a beta unit or production unit, and if it's beta, have you updated it to the 1.1 f/w? --Bob Prosperi 11-06-2020, 07:02 PM Post: #3  JurgenRo Member Posts: 176 Joined: Jul 2015 RE: DM41X ED$ Bug in SLOW-mode
(11-06-2020 06:55 PM)rprosperi Wrote:
(11-06-2020 04:52 PM)JurgenRo Wrote:  While working with ASCII-files with Ángels ED$, I observed the following 2 missbehaviors with the machine being in SLOW-mode. 1st: The Display "flickers". This phenomenon is not quite predictable in that the "flicker" occurs either sporadically (with a couple of seconds between 2 flickers) or continuously with the "frequence" of the blinking cursor almost with the "impression" of a continuos scrolling (making it entirely impossible to work with the file). Mostly, the sporadic flicker occurs when creating the file, while the continous flicker occurs when opening an existing file. 2nd: While ED$ is active (and behaves like described above) the machine seems to be in a state of raised power consumption: The battery indicator drops (in case of a fresh battery) from 4 bars to 3 bars. The 4 bars are shown again after exiting ED$. ED$ seems to work regularly when the machine is in FAST-mode, though.

Edit: Typo

Thanks for posting this, and with lots of details.

Is this with a beta unit or production unit, and if it's beta, have you updated it to the 1.1 f/w?

Hi Bob, it's a production unit, SN00270, running the latest Firmware DMCP_flash_3.20_DM41X-2.0.
11-06-2020, 07:22 PM
Post: #4
 Massimo Gnerucci Senior Member Posts: 2,351 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: DM41X ED$Bug in SLOW-mode Thank you. Anyhow I don't understand why you don't use SM's forum to report issues... Greetings, Massimo -+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong 11-06-2020, 07:50 PM Post: #5  rprosperi Senior Member Posts: 5,018 Joined: Dec 2013 RE: DM41X ED$ Bug in SLOW-mode
(11-06-2020 07:02 PM)JurgenRo Wrote:  Hi Bob, it's a production unit, SN00270, running the latest Firmware DMCP_flash_3.20_DM41X-2.0.

Thanks for your quick reply. And, yes, I did know that the latest is 2.0 and not 1.1, it was a brief brain fart... let's just let it pass...

We'll look into it, but I just have to ask... why do you use SLOW mode at all?

--Bob Prosperi
11-06-2020, 07:57 PM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2020 08:15 PM by JurgenRo.)
Post: #6
 JurgenRo Member Posts: 176 Joined: Jul 2015
RE: DM41X ED$Bug in SLOW-mode (11-06-2020 07:22 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote: Thank you. Anyhow I don't understand why you don't use SM's forum to report issues... Done (SM Forum -> SW-Issues). Edit: Hope, this is the right slot there (as it's actually for beta-firmware)? 11-06-2020, 08:21 PM Post: #7  rprosperi Senior Member Posts: 5,018 Joined: Dec 2013 RE: DM41X ED$ Bug in SLOW-mode
Top issue confirmed. I don't see the 2nd issue, but that depends on the state of one's batteries, however it's not unexpected; when in slow mode, the emulation is basically looping to waste time to 'slow down'. Ironically, using slow mode actually consumes more (instantaneous) power than fast mode.

We'll explore this, and see if it can be easily resolved, however we've tweaked here before and this may be the way it has to stay. Fortunately, in FAST mode, the problem does not appear.

Thanks!

--Bob Prosperi
11-06-2020, 08:25 PM
Post: #8
 Massimo Gnerucci Senior Member Posts: 2,351 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: DM41X ED$Bug in SLOW-mode (11-06-2020 07:57 PM)JurgenRo Wrote: (11-06-2020 07:22 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote: Thank you. Anyhow I don't understand why you don't use SM's forum to report issues... Done (SM Forum -> SW-Issues). Edit: Hope, this is the right slot there (as it's actually for beta-firmware)? Can't see your post but, maybe, you just registered there? Board index / DM41X / Software issues should be the right place. Thanks Greetings, Massimo -+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong 11-06-2020, 08:37 PM Post: #9  JurgenRo Member Posts: 176 Joined: Jul 2015 RE: DM41X ED$ Bug in SLOW-mode
(11-06-2020 08:25 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:
(11-06-2020 07:57 PM)JurgenRo Wrote:  Done (SM Forum -> SW-Issues).
Edit: Hope, this is the right slot there (as it's actually for beta-firmware)?

Can't see your post but, maybe, you just registered there?
Board index / DM41X / Software issues should be the right place.
Thanks

No, registered some time ago already. But got an instantan message stating "post has to be reviewed by a moderator before". Don't know why :/
11-06-2020, 08:38 PM
Post: #10
 JurgenRo Member Posts: 176 Joined: Jul 2015
RE: DM41X ED$Bug in SLOW-mode (11-06-2020 08:21 PM)rprosperi Wrote: Top issue confirmed. I don't see the 2nd issue, but that depends on the state of one's batteries, however it's not unexpected; when in slow mode, the emulation is basically looping to waste time to 'slow down'. Ironically, using slow mode actually consumes more (instantaneous) power than fast mode. We'll explore this, and see if it can be easily resolved, however we've tweaked here before and this may be the way it has to stay. Fortunately, in FAST mode, the problem does not appear. Thanks! Thanks a lot! 11-06-2020, 08:58 PM Post: #11  rprosperi Senior Member Posts: 5,018 Joined: Dec 2013 RE: DM41X ED$ Bug in SLOW-mode
(11-06-2020 08:38 PM)JurgenRo Wrote:
(11-06-2020 08:21 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  Top issue confirmed. I don't see the 2nd issue, but that depends on the state of one's batteries, however it's not unexpected; when in slow mode, the emulation is basically looping to waste time to 'slow down'. Ironically, using slow mode actually consumes more (instantaneous) power than fast mode.

We'll explore this, and see if it can be easily resolved, however we've tweaked here before and this may be the way it has to stay. Fortunately, in FAST mode, the problem does not appear.

Thanks!

Thanks a lot!

No problem.

I agree it's likely better to file bug reports at the SM forum (at least it will be once you're un-moderated, which will happen after 3 posts). In the future, Id like to request that you please only post them in one Forum, so we're not running threads in 2 places, it's confusing enough keeping track of one sometimes.

--Bob Prosperi
11-06-2020, 09:52 PM
Post: #12
 JurgenRo Member Posts: 176 Joined: Jul 2015
RE: DM41X ED\$ Bug in SLOW-mode
(11-06-2020 08:58 PM)rprosperi Wrote:
(11-06-2020 08:38 PM)JurgenRo Wrote:  Thanks a lot!

No problem.

I agree it's likely better to file bug reports at the SM forum (at least it will be once you're un-moderated, which will happen after 3 posts). In the future, Id like to request that you please only post them in one Forum, so we're not running threads in 2 places, it's confusing enough keeping track of one sometimes.

Agreed! Checked it a minute ago, the post is now online at SM-Forum.
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