Step by Step calculations

04232015, 06:20 PM
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Step by Step calculations
Hi,
Other HP calcs had the ability to show step by step calculations on some CAS functions, like derivatives, once step/step has been enabled. Do you know if this is still available on the Prime ? (I couldn't find that setting in the CAS settings pages nor mentioned in the User Manual) 

04232015, 06:54 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
There is nothing currently on the Prime, it's a work in progress inside Xcas.


04232015, 06:55 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
No, that is not available at this time.
TW Although I work for HP, the views and opinions I post here are my own. 

04242015, 02:11 AM
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04242015, 06:13 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
Download Xcas, and check step by step in the general settings (Cfg menu).
Integration, derivation, linear system solving have some step/step features. 

04242015, 08:29 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(04242015 06:13 AM)parisse Wrote: Download Xcas, and check step by step in the general settings (Cfg menu). Hi, where can I download the current version of Xcas for my HPPrime? could you provide a link please. Greetings Dirk. 

04242015, 08:53 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(04242015 08:29 AM)Dirk. Wrote: Hi, You can't. Xcas is a PC program. The same sources are compiled to become the Prime CAS environment. So you will need to wait until a new release of the Prime firmware is issued by HP. Marcus von Cube Wehrheim, Germany http://www.mvcsys.de http://wp34s.sf.net http://mvcsys.de/doc/basiccompare.html 

04242015, 10:32 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
XCAS is also available as an Android App (free). Doesn't suffer from arbitrary limitations of Prime.


04242015, 12:46 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(04242015 10:32 AM)Gerald H Wrote: XCAS is also available as an Android App (free). Doesn't suffer from arbitrary limitations of Prime. I hope to have, sometime, a Mac OS X and iOS version too... ∫aL√0mic (IT9CLU) :: HP Prime 50g 41CX 71b 42s 39s 35s 12C 15C  DM42, DM41X  WP34s Prime Soft. Lib 

04242015, 01:30 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(04242015 08:53 AM)Marcus von Cube Wrote:(04242015 08:29 AM)Dirk. Wrote: Hi, So if I understood everything, Xcas is not a not official program, it will be an official HP program. This is right? 

04242015, 01:33 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(04242015 01:30 PM)fefer92 Wrote:(04242015 08:53 AM)Marcus von Cube Wrote: You can't. Xcas is a PC program. The same sources are compiled to become the Prime CAS environment. So you will need to wait until a new release of the Prime firmware is issued by HP. The CAS on the HP Prime is based on a PC program called XCAS/GIAC. There are two "versions" of XCAS  one for the PC and one for the HP Prime. They share the same code base, but are also different namely because each version is for a different platform. Graph 3D  QPI  SolveSys 

04242015, 01:44 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
For more details about Xcas, look at the official web page.


05012015, 01:26 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
It's a bit sad that in the screenshots available on the official website of XCAS appear many 3D graphics, while in the HP Prime this feature isn't yet natively supported. We want more power in the Prime!
Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next without any loss of enthusiasm. View PNG/JPG in your Prime 

05012015, 08:23 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 01:26 AM)mandresve Wrote: It's a bit sad that in the screenshots available on the official website of XCAS appear many 3D graphics, while in the HP Prime this feature isn't yet natively supported. We want more power in the Prime! but sure you have already seen this 3D Graph program by Han :) It's ok for the Prime! Salvo ∫aL√0mic (IT9CLU) :: HP Prime 50g 41CX 71b 42s 39s 35s 12C 15C  DM42, DM41X  WP34s Prime Soft. Lib 

05012015, 08:36 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 08:23 AM)salvomic Wrote: but sure you have already seen this 3D Graph program by Han :) Of course Salvo, Han made a great job with the 3D Graph program but it is a great deficiency that HP doesn't include this as native support while in other brands is more that a mandatory feature. Apart from that I think the Prime HP offers enough specs at the hardware level which can be exploited with a better set of features and functions that help to position itself as the leader in its category. Still waiting to HP unleash the full power for the HP Prime in future SW revisions & updates, but never dissapointed for the great work they have put into it. Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next without any loss of enthusiasm. View PNG/JPG in your Prime 

05012015, 08:46 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 08:36 PM)mandresve Wrote: ...Still waiting to HP unleash the full power for the HP Prime in future SW revisions & updates, but never dissapointed for the great work they have put into it. I agree! we hope a new wonderful FW soon (after months) Nowadays the list of the added features sure is too big ;) I don't know if it will be possible to include in the FW directly also the Han's 3d prog, perhaps Tim could tell us more... ∫aL√0mic (IT9CLU) :: HP Prime 50g 41CX 71b 42s 39s 35s 12C 15C  DM42, DM41X  WP34s Prime Soft. Lib 

05012015, 09:26 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 08:36 PM)mandresve Wrote: great deficiency that HP doesn't include this as native support while in other brands is more that a mandatory feature. Strange that for a mandatory feature it took 4 years after release to come the nspire, and still isn't on the casio prizm... TW TW Although I work for HP, the views and opinions I post here are my own. 

05012015, 09:57 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 09:26 PM)Tim Wessman Wrote: Strange that for a mandatory feature it took 4 years after release to come the nspire, and still isn't on the casio prizm... I know Tim, I mean that it's already implemented in the XCAS/GIAC, but not ported to the HP Prime. I'm very happy with the work he has done with HP calculator, really it is, I hope, like all products, continue to improve over time. Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next without any loss of enthusiasm. View PNG/JPG in your Prime 

05012015, 10:24 PM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 08:36 PM)mandresve Wrote: Of course Salvo, Han made a great job with the 3D Graph program but it is a great deficiency that HP doesn't include this as native support while in other brands is more that a mandatory feature. Apart from that I think the Prime HP offers enough specs at the hardware level which can be exploited with a better set of features and functions that help to position itself as the leader in its category. Still waiting to HP unleash the full power for the HP Prime in future SW revisions & updates, but never dissapointed for the great work they have put into it.I'm in the process of discovering the classPad 400 (emulated version). I wouldn't take one because, like the Prime, it seems to be dedicated to education, but from the little I have seen so far, it seems superior to the Prime. So why wait for the Prime when the alternative already exists on the market? Now for professional purposes with unit conversion, multiple equation solver, base conversion and the fun of RPL, the 50g remains my best toy for now. 

05022015, 01:35 AM
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RE: Step by Step calculations
(05012015 10:24 PM)Tugdual Wrote: I'm in the process of discovering the classPad 400 (emulated version). I wouldn't take one because, like the Prime, it seems to be dedicated to education, but from the little I have seen so far, it seems superior to the Prime. So why wait for the Prime when the alternative already exists on the market? Now for professional purposes with unit conversion, multiple equation solver, base conversion and the fun of RPL, the 50g remains my best toy for now. When I was in the processing of buying the Prime, I had a list with options to choose from, and if I remember correctly, the classpad 400 was the last entry mostly because of its inferior hardware. Even so, I decided to play with the emulator for a short while and came to the conclusion it was a far more mature product than the Prime was and is now. Its CAS was way better and the equation solver worked like a dream (except I couldn't find where or how to solve systems of nonlinear equations), and I don't think it had a MES, probably still doesn't. Would you care to open a thread comparing the two? Might be interesting to see what others have to say. 

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