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Wp34s v3914
05-27-2023, 02:26 PM
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Wp34s v3914
So after a long time I thought I would update my wp34s to the latest version. On the project page, the standard download file is v3844. On a trunk page I was able to find v3910, and that's what I successfully flashed.
But on the project page I see references to v3914, though I couldn't find the .bin files to flash this version. Is this a work-in-progress version that's not supposed to be flashed yet?

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05-28-2023, 06:02 AM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
The WP 34S project is effectively shut down at this point.
I'm not expecting us to ever release a new version.

Now, if someone is willing to make a new release, we'd be open to the opportunity.
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05-28-2023, 12:19 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
(05-28-2023 06:02 AM)Paul Dale Wrote:  The WP 34S project is effectively shut down at this point.
I'm not expecting us to ever release a new version.

Now, if someone is willing to make a new release, we'd be open to the opportunity.

OK, so I'll just keep it at v3910, I suppose not much has changed from that. I wouldn't know where to begin to manually add the latest changes! Smile
I've used it a little bit, and it seems stable and bug-free enough. Why isn't 3910 the official version downloadable from the main page? Does it have standing, crippling bugs?
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05-28-2023, 02:04 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
https://sourceforge.net/p/wp34s/code/HEA...realbuild/

(05-28-2023 12:19 PM)Cristian Arezzini Wrote:  
(05-28-2023 06:02 AM)Paul Dale Wrote:  The WP 34S project is effectively shut down at this point.
I'm not expecting us to ever release a new version.

Now, if someone is willing to make a new release, we'd be open to the opportunity.

OK, so I'll just keep it at v3910, I suppose not much has changed from that. I wouldn't know where to begin to manually add the latest changes! Smile
I've used it a little bit, and it seems stable and bug-free enough. Why isn't 3910 the official version downloadable from the main page? Does it have standing, crippling bugs?
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05-28-2023, 03:06 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
(05-28-2023 02:04 PM)linq2008 Wrote:  https://sourceforge.net/p/wp34s/code/HEA...realbuild/

Thank you, but unless I've got something really wrong, on that page the *.bin files are all v3910... and indeed, after flashing them the reported version on the calculator is 3910. That page is actually where I originally got the file that I ended up flashing...
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05-28-2023, 03:16 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
Here you can see the different commits and the differences between 3910 and 3914.
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05-28-2023, 03:29 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
(05-28-2023 03:16 PM)Didier Lachieze Wrote:  Here you can see the different commits and the differences between 3910 and 3914.

Thank you. So if I'm reading that correctly, the only change that is actually pertinent to the actual hardware calculator, is the Zeta function one. I suppose it's not worth the effort to make a new build just for that, especially since I would have to learn to do that from scratch...

Thank you again,
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05-28-2023, 03:37 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
Here you can find more details about the Zeta function change in v3914.
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05-28-2023, 04:14 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
(05-28-2023 06:02 AM)Paul Dale Wrote:  The WP 34S project is effectively shut down at this point.

Paul, your comment made me curious... Is there a specific reason why the WP34s is shut down? Is it because it has reached maturity and there's nothing left to fix or add? Or because the hardware is getting harder to find? Or because the new SwissMicros calculators nicely fill the niche?
I suppose it's mostly the last option... The SM calcs look wonderful. Too bad they're way out of my budget range... otherwise I'd surely want to play with the 41 and the 42, for sure!

Anyway, I've been "out of the loop" for a while, but I still enjoy my WP34s very much. I even have two brand new, still sealed, HP30b calculators ready to be converted if/when the need arises... I also have the programming cable and all the software needed. I just need a couple more sticker sets, if/when Eric makes a new batch... Smile
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05-28-2023, 04:15 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
(05-28-2023 03:37 PM)Didier Lachieze Wrote:  Here you can find more details about the Zeta function change in v3914.

Thank you, then I don't need those changes at all. And indeed, trying the Zeta funcion on the real calculator appears to give good results.
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05-28-2023, 11:14 PM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
(05-28-2023 04:14 PM)Cristian Arezzini Wrote:  Paul, your comment made me curious... Is there a specific reason why the WP34s is shut down? Is it because it has reached maturity and there's nothing left to fix or add? Or because the hardware is getting harder to find? Or because the new SwissMicros calculators nicely fill the niche?

It's a combination of all of these, except perhaps the last. SwissMicros don't quite fit the niche: the 20b/30b hardware was very cheap.

  1. The firmware is mature, bugs are seldom found. Something really egregious might get a fix and new release. Problems like the one with Zeta are unlikely to.
  2. Memory is full: we've got 1 or 2 bits of RAM left and not much flash, so there is not really any scope for additional features.
  3. Hardware is getting more difficult to find, not just donor calculators but the programming cable is virtually unobtainable for most.
  4. I'm not sure we can even build firmware images anymore. Marcus did this using an old machine that's now a decade older.
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06-02-2023, 10:22 AM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
I've committed a new release (3915) to Sourceforge. The previous release (3914) wouldn't compile because the renaming of functions carried out in r3912 was incomplete. I've rebuilt the emulator in each branch, along with the flash files for the calculator. The only problem is with the V2.2 branch: the emulator appears fine, but the flash file build fails at the final step (post_process.c) with a data error, which I have been unable to find the cause of.

There are no new features added, other than the corrected zeta function and the ability to compile without errors.

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06-02-2023, 10:48 AM
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RE: Wp34s v3914
Nigel, thanks for this.

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