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05-16-2016, 09:02 PM
Post: #41
RE: DM42
Display resolution: 400x240.

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05-16-2016, 10:57 PM
Post: #42
RE: DM42
(05-16-2016 09:02 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Display resolution: 400x240.

Assuming an advanced display of the 42S which could be 26 chars by 6 ore more(*) lines, this would be a very reasonable resolution for a non graphical calculator. Don't compare it with current smartphones Smile or the Prime

(*) 6 lines or more could be:
1. the complete stack
2. Last X ?
3. One permanent menu line, perhaps one line for sub-menus

If you compare the preliminary layout with a real 42, you'll see that the space for the keyboard is almost the same size as on the original. All of the wasted real estate on the 42S is now used for the large screen, that's really clever. Provided the price is somewhere in the magnitude Massimo has announced, I'll definitely buy one. I don't need any calculator any more, but I surely must have this one Smile

Sorry, I can't imagine how a landscape format could come even close. Sad

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05-16-2016, 11:42 PM
Post: #43
RE: DM42
(05-16-2016 02:50 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  
(05-16-2016 06:58 AM)JimP Wrote:  The form factor, however, is starting to look like an HP48, which feels like it's a bit big for purpose.

If you read details above (and/or print the attached images) you'll find this new machine is actually a bit smaller than the original Pioneer machines. So it's very portable, but with a much larger screen, which can display all 4 levels plus the soft-menus. I have no inside information, but it's fully obvious that to act as a '42, it must include the soft-menus, and they surely would not display only 3 levels.

I had looked at the image and held it up against my 27S, which on screen was just a tad smaller than the DM42 silhouette (2 mm on each side) -- hence my comment -- now I've repeated the experiment and realized that the silhouette was in fact ~156 mm long rather than the 144 mm described. Mea culpa, measure twice before cutting! OK I'm completely sold.
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05-25-2016, 11:26 PM
Post: #44
RE: DM42
Perhaps the extra display space can be used for displaying all 30+ decimal digits of a number (even if only for a SHOW). It's a bit frustrating (using the Free42 emulator now and it will be the same with the DM42) to have to jump through hoops to extract the extra digits that you know are there...

Still, very exciting prospects whatever comes out.
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06-21-2016, 10:14 PM
Post: #45
RE: DM42
Latest teaser...


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06-21-2016, 11:04 PM
Post: #46
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(06-21-2016 10:14 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Latest teaser...

Fantastic ... and finally, the letters are directly accessible like the 41 Smile
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06-21-2016, 11:47 PM
Post: #47
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(06-21-2016 11:04 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  Fantastic ... and finally, the letters are directly accessible like the 41 Smile

I hope they will be more precisely positioned in the final product. For example the letter A is closer to the 1/x key, whereas it is related to the Σ+ key.

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06-22-2016, 12:04 AM
Post: #48
RE: DM42
A 42s with a 4 or 5 line display AND a permanent menu line?!

You had me at 3. This is what is called in English "an embarrassment of riches".

A useful program capability would be; to be able to prompt on all lines simultaneously, but that can be worked around. I remember on my 42 I just kept track of the three or four things I was entering.
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06-22-2016, 12:55 AM
Post: #49
RE: DM42
Wonderful! Now I just need to start thinking of how I justify buying another calculator to my wife... Any ideas?
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06-22-2016, 07:07 AM
Post: #50
RE: DM42
(06-22-2016 12:55 AM)Dan B Wrote:  Wonderful! Now I just need to start thinking of how I justify buying another calculator to my wife... Any ideas?

Simply ask your wife: You have only 2 feet and it is very unlikely that the number increases. Why do you need more than 10 pairs of shoes? ;-)
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06-23-2016, 05:08 AM (This post was last modified: 06-23-2016 05:09 AM by Ángel Martin.)
Post: #51
RE: DM42
(06-21-2016 11:04 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:14 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Latest teaser...

Fantastic ... and finally, the letters are directly accessible like the 41 Smile

Yes that\s a superb bonus - can't begin to tell you how much I hate the soft -Alpha...
But wait, where's the SHIFT key??

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06-23-2016, 06:49 AM
Post: #52
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 05:08 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 11:04 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  Fantastic ... and finally, the letters are directly accessible like the 41 Smile

Yes that\s a superb bonus - can't begin to tell you how much I hate the soft -Alpha...
But wait, where's the SHIFT key??

'AM

Just above the EXIT key, I think...

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06-23-2016, 07:14 AM
Post: #53
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 06:49 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 05:08 AM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  But wait, where's the SHIFT key??
Just above the EXIT key, I think...

Ángel should have asked where's the GOLD key...

I may ask: what is the purpose of the TOP.FCN command, now that there are dedicated soft keys for the menus?

I like this DM-42 :-)

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06-23-2016, 08:22 AM (This post was last modified: 06-23-2016 08:23 AM by Massimo Gnerucci.)
Post: #54
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 07:14 AM)J-F Garnier Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 06:49 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Just above the EXIT key, I think...

Ángel should have asked where's the GOLD key...

I may ask: what is the purpose of the TOP.FCN command, now that there are dedicated soft keys for the menus?

I like this DM-42 :-)

J-F

The real question, today, is: brEXIT or remaIN? :D


P.S. I like it too!

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06-23-2016, 09:27 AM (This post was last modified: 06-23-2016 09:30 AM by Harald.)
Post: #55
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 08:22 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  The real question, today, is: brEXIT or remaIN? Big Grin


P.S. I like it too!

I'm guessing it will be "remain". I can understand why one would want to leave though...

All that nonsense about making the Greek save just enough so they won't improve their sittuation but don't declare bankruptcy either.
It doesn't help the Greek and everyone else has to pay. And for what? Just so a couple of banks can continue to make a fortune out of the sittuation?!?
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06-23-2016, 09:45 AM
Post: #56
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(06-23-2016 09:27 AM)Harald Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 08:22 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  The real question, today, is: brEXIT or remaIN? :D


P.S. I like it too!

I'm guessing it will be "remain". I can understand why one would want to leave though...

All that nonsense about making the Greek save just enough so they won't improve their sittuation but don't declare bankruptcy either.
It doesn't help the Greek and everyone else has to pay. And for what? Just so a couple of banks can continue to make a fortune out of the sittuation?!?

Yeah. So J-F was right: where's the GOLD (key)?

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06-23-2016, 05:01 PM (This post was last modified: 06-23-2016 05:01 PM by Ángel Martin.)
Post: #57
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 09:45 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Yeah. So J-F was right: where's the GOLD (key)?

My point exactly, I hope this is just a concept layout and the final version has a proper GOLD/YELLOW SHIFT key on it!

Can't wait for it!
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06-23-2016, 05:06 PM
Post: #58
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 05:01 PM)Ángel Martin Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 09:45 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Yeah. So J-F was right: where's the GOLD (key)?

My point exactly, I hope this is just a concept layout and the final version has a proper GOLD/YELLOW SHIFT key on it!

Can't wait for it!

I bet you would take it even if it was pink! ;)

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06-23-2016, 07:38 PM
Post: #59
RE: DM42
(06-23-2016 07:14 AM)J-F Garnier Wrote:  Ángel should have asked where's the GOLD key...

I may ask: what is the purpose of the TOP.FCN command, now that there are dedicated soft keys for the menus?

I like this DM-42 :-)

Yes, indeed I want one ASAP. Ok, two really.

I think TOP.FCN is still needed to bring the default functions back to the menu-area display, which could at any moment still be displaying a menu. I presume that the reason for separating the F-keys from the top row is to allow TOP.FCN functions to be accessible even when menus are active. Just a guess, however the good news is that even if this guess is totally wrong, we should all know relatively soon.

And I agree the shift-key MUST be painted GOLD; a small thing, but an important small thing.

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06-24-2016, 11:47 AM
Post: #60
RE: DM42
I've been following it on facebook. Looking great.

(05-14-2016 02:16 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Expected price range:

Quote:not sure yet, but more than a DM41L and definitely below CHF200

Now translate it into your preferred currency...

My preferred currency just dropped around 8% overnight Sad
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