HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
01-19-2018, 04:15 PM
Post: #1
 Jean-Michel Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2014
HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Hello

As an humble contribution to this forum, and since some of you recently showed their interest for this, I have translated to English the HP-Prime CAS manual from Renée de Graeve and Bernard Parisse.

You will find it in the same folder as the French version:
HP-Prime CAS manual in English

This is so far just a "beta" version. I would be pleased that some of you could help me to improve the translation where needed, especially for the highlighted wordings (look for the mention "Translation to be checked").

For some reasons, I decided to rework the original LaTex text in Word for Mac 2011. I did not find how to have the page numbers of the index as links to the document. Is this possible? If so, how?

Kind regards.
01-19-2018, 04:22 PM
Post: #2
 salvomic Senior Member Posts: 1,364 Joined: Jan 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Very impressive, thank you!

Salvo

∫aL√0mic (IT9CLU), HP Prime 50g 41CX 71b 42s 12C 15C - DM42 WP34s :: Prime Soft. Lib
01-19-2018, 05:35 PM (This post was last modified: 01-19-2018 05:40 PM by Tim Wessman.)
Post: #3
 Tim Wessman Senior Member Posts: 2,113 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Very impressive indeed.

Since you are probably more familiar with both then I, how would you summarize the differences between the english document that is already there and the french source manual you used to create this? How significant are the differences?

To be clear, I understand this is the "HP Prime CAS" manual, but how much difference is there between the "cascmd_en.pdf" and the HP Prime one? Is there huge amounts of shared content? Just trying to get a better feel for it.

TW

Although I work for the HP calculator group, the views and opinions I post here are my own.
01-19-2018, 06:11 PM
Post: #4
 Michael K-K Junior Member Posts: 20 Joined: Apr 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-19-2018 04:15 PM)Jean-Michel Wrote:  For some reasons, I decided to rework the original LaTex text in Word for Mac 2011. I did not find how to have the page numbers of the index as links to the document. Is this possible? If so, how?

If you use this code in your preamble, your index, footnotes, and references turn to hyperlinks.

Code:
 \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf      \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx}   % to include graphics     \pdfcompresslevel=9      \usepackage[pdftex,     % sets up hyperref to use pdftex driver             plainpages=false,   % allows page i and 1 to exist in the same document             breaklinks=true,    % link texts can be broken at the end of line             colorlinks=true,             pdftitle=My Document             pdfauthor=My Good Self            ]{hyperref}      \usepackage{thumbpdf} \else      \usepackage{graphicx}       % to include graphics     \usepackage{hyperref}       % to simplify the use of \href \fi
01-19-2018, 08:56 PM
Post: #5
 Jean-Michel Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2014
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-19-2018 05:35 PM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  Very impressive indeed.

Since you are probably more familiar with both then I, how would you summarize the differences between the english document that is already there and the french source manual you used to create this? How significant are the differences?

To be clear, I understand this is the "HP Prime CAS" manual, but how much difference is there between the "cascmd_en.pdf" and the HP Prime one? Is there huge amounts of shared content? Just trying to get a better feel for it.

I thank you for your kind words.

Bernard Parisse could answer your question much better than me. I will only say that I used cascmd_en to check my translations, at least for the common part of the text.
Being longer, the text written by Renée de Graeve gives more place to examples and explanations, whereas cascmd_en looks to me more like a sort of quick reference guide.

Kind regards.
01-19-2018, 09:55 PM
Post: #6
 Jean-Michel Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2014
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-19-2018 06:11 PM)Michael K-K Wrote:
(01-19-2018 04:15 PM)Jean-Michel Wrote:  For some reasons, I decided to rework the original LaTex text in Word for Mac 2011. I did not find how to have the page numbers of the index as links to the document. Is this possible? If so, how?

If you use this code in your preamble, your index, footnotes, and references turn to hyperlinks.

Code:
 \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf      \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx}   % to include graphics     \pdfcompresslevel=9      \usepackage[pdftex,     % sets up hyperref to use pdftex driver             plainpages=false,   % allows page i and 1 to exist in the same document             breaklinks=true,    % link texts can be broken at the end of line             colorlinks=true,             pdftitle=My Document             pdfauthor=My Good Self            ]{hyperref}      \usepackage{thumbpdf} \else      \usepackage{graphicx}       % to include graphics     \usepackage{hyperref}       % to simplify the use of \href \fi

May I kindly ask you where I should insert these lines of code? What is what you call "preamble"?
I work with Word for Mac, 2011.

Kind regards.
01-19-2018, 11:21 PM
Post: #7
 TheKaneB Member Posts: 173 Joined: Jul 2014
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Thank you for your hard work!

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01-19-2018, 11:45 PM
Post: #8
 Joe Horn Senior Member Posts: 1,479 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Many, many thanks, Jean-Michel! It will be used every day. Greatly appreciated!

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-Joe-
01-20-2018, 09:36 AM
Post: #9
 Michael K-K Junior Member Posts: 20 Joined: Apr 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-19-2018 09:55 PM)Jean-Michel Wrote:  Thank you Michael for your advice.
May I kindly ask you where I should insert these lines of code? What is what you call "preamble"?
I work with Word for Mac, 2011.

Jean-Michel, sorry, I totally misinterpreted your first post. I thought you turned to Word because you did not manage in LaTeX to convert references to hyperlinks. The above code is LaTeX-code - totally useless to you. Unless you would like to revert to LaTeX, in this case, I could provide an empty document with a complete preamble, which is used to determine the formatting of the whole output. The preamble is that part of code before the document starts.

With Word I am of no help, I avoid those word processors as much as possible.

Best regards!
01-21-2018, 07:59 AM
Post: #10
 webmasterpdx Senior Member Posts: 541 Joined: Sep 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Really fantastic job!!!! Thank you so much! I've been waiting a while for someone to do this.
I do have a question. I noticed the last few lines of both the english and french versions have an inconsistency.....In the french version there are a few calls to PCGD() and these get converted to GCD() in the english version. Why is that?

Thanks
-Donald
01-21-2018, 08:07 AM
Post: #11
 webmasterpdx Senior Member Posts: 541 Joined: Sep 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Added to HP Prime wiki....
http://www.wiki4hp.com/doku.php?id=prime:start
01-21-2018, 08:54 AM
Post: #12
 klesl Member Posts: 54 Joined: Mar 2016
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
many many thanks for your incredible effort
01-21-2018, 10:21 AM
Post: #13
 Carlos295pz Member Posts: 296 Joined: Sep 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
It is one of the most relevant contributions to the CAS for years, the benefit for common use in the HP Prime and its programming will be significant!!

Viga C | TD | FB
01-21-2018, 11:44 AM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2018 12:34 PM by Jean-Michel.)
Post: #14
 Jean-Michel Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2014
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-21-2018 07:59 AM)webmasterpdx Wrote:  Really fantastic job!!!! Thank you so much! I've been waiting a while for someone to do this.
I do have a question. I noticed the last few lines of both the english and french versions have an inconsistency.....In the french version there are a few calls to PCGD() and these get converted to GCD() in the english version. Why is that?

Thanks
-Donald

Thank you Donald for your kind words.
In French:
- PGCD = Plus Grand Commun Dénominateur
- PPCM = Plus Petit Commun Multiple
In English:
- GCD = Greatest Common Denominator
- LCM = Lowest Common Multiple

You said you noticed the above in the "last few lines": did you already read the entire document?!

Kind regards.

[EDIT]: corrected greateST and loweST (instead of greateR and loweR)
01-21-2018, 12:50 PM
Post: #15
 webmasterpdx Senior Member Posts: 541 Joined: Sep 2015
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
LOL no, I didn't read the entire document, but I scrolled through it to make sure it was Prime related with Prime examples....and I arrived at the last page and noticed the discrepancy. Makes sense. Thx.
-D
01-21-2018, 01:50 PM (This post was last modified: 01-22-2018 02:36 PM by compsystems.)
Post: #16
 compsystems Senior Member Posts: 1,164 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Hello, sorry for my bad English

I want to make a contribution to the reference guide

1: Please include the evalb command

evalb(expression)
This function will evaluate expression down to a true/false or 1/0 value if possible, in terminal view returns true/false, otherwise 1/0

Examples:
print(evalb(√4==2)) -> true
evalb(√4==2) -> 1

2: I have seen in the document the postfix command ( :; ) but it is not documented, although in the hp-prime does not work the synonym (command type function) nodisp(), but the postfix cmd work

MAKEMAT(0,30,30) [enter] returns
Code:
[[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0]]

(MAKEMAT(0,30,30)):; [enter] returns "Done"

http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~pari...fr076.html

3: NOP cmd: No OPeration instruction.

Example: Function to expand the absolute value |2*x-1| -> 2*x-1 = 1 and -2*x+1 = 1

[subst((abs(2*x-1)) = 1,'abs','nop'), subst((abs(2*x-1)) = 1,'abs','neg')]
returns
[(2*x-1) = 1, (-2*x+1) = 1]

----------------
PD:
Symbolic algebra and Mathematics with Xcas (Reference guide) english documentation incomplete.
https://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~par...md_en.html

Calcul formel et Mathématiques avec Xcas (guide de référence) french "full" documentation. There are new commands that are not documented either. =(
http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~pari...index.html

Who wants to join the Spanish translation project?
http://xcas.e.ujf-grenoble.fr/XCAS/viewt...=22&t=1797

LO SUFICIENTEMENTE BUENO ES ENEMIGO DE LA EXCELENCIA.
01-23-2018, 12:13 AM
Post: #17
 BruceH Member Posts: 222 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-19-2018 04:15 PM)Jean-Michel Wrote:  I did not find how to have the page numbers of the index as links to the document. Is this possible? If so, how?

No it's not possible.

People have been asking MS for this for years but they never add it. Drop the menus and introduce the ribbon bar: yep they'll do that. But add a useful feature? Not a chance.
01-23-2018, 12:23 PM
Post: #18
 Jean-Michel Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2014
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-23-2018 12:13 AM)BruceH Wrote:
(01-19-2018 04:15 PM)Jean-Michel Wrote:  I did not find how to have the page numbers of the index as links to the document. Is this possible? If so, how?

No it's not possible.

People have been asking MS for this for years but they never add it. Drop the menus and introduce the ribbon bar: yep they'll do that. But add a useful feature? Not a chance.

Hello Bruce

Thank you for this (deceiving) confirmation. This could have been a usefull feature.

Kind regards.
01-23-2018, 12:40 PM
Post: #19
 toml_12953 Senior Member Posts: 1,152 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
(01-23-2018 12:13 AM)BruceH Wrote:
(01-19-2018 04:15 PM)Jean-Michel Wrote:  I did not find how to have the page numbers of the index as links to the document. Is this possible? If so, how?

No it's not possible.

People have been asking MS for this for years but they never add it. Drop the menus and introduce the ribbon bar: yep they'll do that. But add a useful feature? Not a chance.

So don't do it in Word. If you create a PDF or HTML file, it's easy to do.

Tom L

French phrases you rarely hear: "trop de beurre" (too much butter)
01-23-2018, 08:12 PM
Post: #20
 P_R_S Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: Oct 2017
RE: HP-Prime CAS manual translated to English
Great works!
Thank you very much!!
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