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09-03-2022, 01:15 AM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2022 11:07 PM by TallKey.)
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09-03-2022, 06:24 AM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
Very cool, another CV with TallKeys.

What is the serial of this CV?
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09-04-2022, 08:18 AM (This post was last modified: 09-04-2022 08:44 AM by J-F Garnier.)
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-03-2022 05:13 PM)TallKey Wrote:  Unaware of the origin of the embossed chin badge and interested in the history of the badge. Mentioned here.
Searched and found one embossed CV badge photo.
Can you post the link for this embossed CV badge photo?

My HP-41CV with embossed logo is visible on my home page.
Here is a better close picture:
[attachment=11061]
Serial number is 2102A00xxx , so as yours, doesn't follow the SN "rule" for 41CV.
But it has a gold keyboard border and slanted keys *except* the gold shift key which is a tall key, see a picture here.

My best explanation is that the embossed label has been used for pre-production CV machines, that would explain the non-standard characteristics: SN, keyboard border colour, tall keys.

But I would happy to know more, and especially how many machines with embossed logo still exist.

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09-04-2022, 09:02 AM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 08:18 AM)J-F Garnier Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 05:13 PM)TallKey Wrote:  Unaware of the origin of the embossed chin badge and interested in the history of the badge. Mentioned here.
Searched and found one embossed CV badge photo.
Can you post the link for this embossed CV badge photo?

My HP-41CV with embossed logo is visible on my home page.
Here is a better close picture:

Serial number is 2102A00xxx , so as yours, doesn't follow the SN "rule" for 41CV.
But it has a gold keyboard border and slanted keys *except* the gold shift key which is a tall key, see a picture here.

My best explanation is that the embossed label has been used for pre-production CV machines, that would explain the non-standard characteristics: SN, keyboard border colour, tall keys.

But I would happy to know more, and especially how many machines with embossed logo still exist.

J-F

Hello Jean-Francois

I saw this special CV you have twice on Internet. I have no knowledge were these HP-41 made. A special edition may be direct from HP, or maybe produced by an HP club?

You can see in the two following pictures the backside from a HP-41C and a very early HP-41CV.

The very early HP-41CV has a completely different sticker on the backside with “Made in U.S.A.” than the HP-41C.

Can you please post a picture from your backside, this will probably bring lighter into the topic.

Many thanks

HP-41C
[Image: 41C.jpg]

HP-41CV
[Image: 41CV.jpg]
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09-04-2022, 09:38 AM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  HP-41C
[Image: 41C.jpg]

HP-41CV
[Image: 41CV.jpg]

Most browsers will refuse to display your photos in a page on this forum. Why? Because the forum is served over HTTPS and your links are to an HTTP URL. Modern browsers refuse to load non-secure content into a secure page.

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09-04-2022, 01:10 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 09:38 AM)RPNerd Wrote:  Most browsers will refuse to display your photos in a page on this forum. Why? Because the forum is served over HTTPS and your links are to an HTTP URL. Modern browsers refuse to load non-secure content into a secure page.

I can see them fine using Firefox on Windows, but Chrome and Edge do not show them, so it's the Chromium engine that won' place nice.

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09-04-2022, 01:17 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-03-2022 05:13 PM)TallKey Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 06:24 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  Very cool, another CV with TallKeys.

What is the serial of this CV?

SN2044A00693
It is a tall key and has a silver border. It is my understanding all CVs have the gold border. A0 too, so it started life as a C.


Interior hand written label (my understanding was serviced at HP)
4/29/83 DS
Romo J3


Unaware of the origin of the embossed chin badge and interested in the history of the badge. Mentioned here.
Searched and found one embossed CV badge photo.

Hi, here you can see an ebay listed HP-41C with golden border.

HP-41C on eBay
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09-04-2022, 01:37 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 01:10 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  I can see them fine using Firefox on Windows, but Chrome and Edge do not show them, so it's the Chromium engine that won' place nice.

Thanks for that. I had no idea Firefox was that unsecure.

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09-04-2022, 02:01 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  The very early HP-41CV has a completely different sticker on the backside with “Made in U.S.A.” than the HP-41C.

Can you please post a picture from your backside, this will probably bring lighter into the topic.

Here it is:
[attachment=11062]

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09-05-2022, 01:42 AM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 01:37 PM)RPNerd Wrote:  Thanks for that. I had no idea Firefox was that unsecure.

I sometimes use Firefox HTTPS relaxed when visiting here, as many images and attachments here are sourced all over the place.

I prefer FF over Chrome hoovering up all I do. Edge is a bit better, but it mostly means MS is now inhaling.

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09-05-2022, 05:53 AM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 09:38 AM)RPNerd Wrote:  
(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  HP-41C
[Image: 41C.jpg]

HP-41CV
[Image: 41CV.jpg]

Most browsers will refuse to display your photos in a page on this forum. Why? Because the forum is served over HTTPS and your links are to an HTTP URL. Modern browsers refuse to load non-secure content into a secure page.

Works great unless you use Google spyware.
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09-05-2022, 04:28 PM (This post was last modified: 09-05-2022 04:31 PM by ijabbott.)
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 09:38 AM)RPNerd Wrote:  
(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  HP-41C
[Image: 41C.jpg]

HP-41CV
[Image: 41CV.jpg]

Most browsers will refuse to display your photos in a page on this forum. Why? Because the forum is served over HTTPS and your links are to an HTTP URL. Modern browsers refuse to load non-secure content into a secure page.

A workaround is to right-click on the broken image icon and select the option to open the image in a new tab. Inconvenient, but at least it allows the image to be shown.

I'm not sure which came first, Chrome's refusal to display mixed-security content, or the museum's move to https.

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09-05-2022, 05:05 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-05-2022 04:28 PM)ijabbott Wrote:  I'm not sure which came first, Chrome's refusal to display mixed-security content, or the museum's move to https.

Even as another Firefox user, I still think the answer to that doesn't matter. The real issue is that people are still using http. If those images had been hosted on an https server, as everything should be these days, this would never have even come up.

I enabled https for my site in 2016, and started forcing it in 2017 (any http request redirects to the corresponding https address), because the service LetsEncrypt made it so anyone can get a certificate for https for free, so there is no longer a cost excuse for not using https. That was 5 years ago, and I tend to be one who is very slow at adopting new things. This forum also uses LetsEncrypt (though I believe the switch here was years later).
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09-07-2022, 01:27 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-04-2022 04:40 PM)TallKey Wrote:  [

Thanks for finding the example of gold bordered 41c, but following the link requires the warning "Viewer Discretion is Advised." Perhaps the worst battery compartment photos ever witnessed. Just terrible.

"Condition:
For parts or not working"

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09-07-2022, 06:22 PM
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(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  Can you please post a picture from your backside, this will probably bring lighter into the topic.

Please! This is a family-friendly forum! :-o

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09-07-2022, 08:26 PM
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(09-07-2022 06:22 PM)johnb Wrote:  
(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  Can you please post a picture from your backside, this will probably bring lighter into the topic.

Please! This is a family-friendly forum! :-o

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09-10-2022, 05:07 PM
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-05-2022 05:05 PM)Eric Rechlin Wrote:  
(09-05-2022 04:28 PM)ijabbott Wrote:  I'm not sure which came first, Chrome's refusal to display mixed-security content, or the museum's move to https.

Even as another Firefox user, I still think the answer to that doesn't matter. The real issue is that people are still using http. If those images had been hosted on an https server, as everything should be these days, this would never have even come up.

I enabled https for my site in 2016, and started forcing it in 2017 (any http request redirects to the corresponding https address), because the service LetsEncrypt made it so anyone can get a certificate for https for free, so there is no longer a cost excuse for not using https. That was 5 years ago, and I tend to be one who is very slow at adopting new things. This forum also uses LetsEncrypt (though I believe the switch here was years later).

If the site uses shared web hosting, it also requires some support by the hosting provider. The web hosting provider for http://www.werren.com used by CY-CL above does appear to support LetsEncrypt though.

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09-10-2022, 05:11 PM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2022 05:12 PM by ijabbott.)
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RE: Embossed 41CV Logo, lore
(09-07-2022 06:22 PM)johnb Wrote:  
(09-04-2022 09:02 AM)CY-CL Wrote:  Can you please post a picture from your backside, this will probably bring lighter into the topic.

Please! This is a family-friendly forum! :-o

If the picture is taken from their backside, it will probably be pretty safe, but probably won't be framed terribly well!

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09-14-2022, 04:47 PM
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(09-10-2022 05:11 PM)ijabbott Wrote:  
(09-07-2022 06:22 PM)johnb Wrote:  Please! This is a family-friendly forum! :-o

If the picture is taken from their backside, it will probably be pretty safe, but probably won't be framed terribly well!

I did NOT see that one coming! ROTFL!

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09-22-2022, 08:33 PM
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(09-05-2022 04:28 PM)ijabbott Wrote:  
(09-04-2022 09:38 AM)RPNerd Wrote:  Most browsers will refuse to display your photos in a page on this forum. Why? Because the forum is served over HTTPS and your links are to an HTTP URL. Modern browsers refuse to load non-secure content into a secure page.

A workaround is to right-click on the broken image icon and select the option to open the image in a new tab. Inconvenient, but at least it allows the image to be shown.

I'm not sure which came first, Chrome's refusal to display mixed-security content, or the museum's move to https.
Ian I've tryed, but even following you workaround I'm not able to see the pictures, they are not displayed even in a new tab
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