Set Theory

05032019, 04:12 PM
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Set Theory
Lately I’ve been revisiting some work I did using Set Theory 10 years ago.
Having not come back to Programmable Calculators until 2016, a long gap from programming the HP97 back in 1981. I haven’t got the length and breadth of experience that you guys/gals have with Programmable Calculators  some of it amazing and highly technical. My best working calculators I have are the HP41CX and HP15C plus a DM41 and DM16. I like that you’ve been very supportive of some probably simple questions to you but not to this 70 year old semiretired Mathemation! Back to Set Theory  I’ve done a fair bit of looking for anything Set Theory related on The Museum USB Stick and online. Can anyone point me towards any articles or software that I could use on both my vintage HP Calculators and/or my later models, namely HP Prime (1st edition) or my HP50G that relates to Set Theory please? Finally do nearly all HP42S programs run on the HP41CX? Thanks Dennis Denny 

05032019, 07:00 PM
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RE: Set Theory
The Prime includes the basic set operations (union, intersection, difference). The HP 50 does not, but they are included in GoferLists.
The GoferLists commands are a bit slow, so I posted some moreorless equivalent programs in this thread. They require the ListExt Library. IMHO, both of the abovementioned libraries are essential for anyone doing listbased programming on the HP 50. HTH, John 

05032019, 09:27 PM
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RE: Set Theory
(05032019 04:12 PM)Leviset Wrote: do nearly all HP42S programs run on the HP41CX? Judging by my own collection, I'd have to say no, absolutely not. I do have a few programs that will run on the 41CX (or even on the 41C), but those are all programs that were originally written for those calculators. Around 80% of the programs in my collection make use of features like named variables, matrices, or the solver, and would not run on the 41CX without at least extensive modifications. Those features are so powerful and so versatile that they tend to crop up in almost any nontrivial program you'll write on the 42S. 

05042019, 12:56 PM
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RE: Set Theory
Hi Dennis,
maybe you'll like to have a look at my article "The Secret of the Aleph" where you'll find some background about Georg Cantor and a program to calculate a power set for the HP50G. Have fun. Best regards Karl 

05042019, 11:49 PM
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RE: Set Theory
Karl  Thanks
Denny 

05052019, 03:12 PM
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RE: Set Theory
The method I have used when manipulating sets on my HP48GX is based off of the fact that the power set of a set of size N is 2^N . One might be tempted to construct the power set by iterating through all 2^N values, bitwise, but that is very inefficient. A better method is to use a gray code counter so that to build a power set, only one element has to be altered at a time.
Regards, Jonathan EDIT : If you really want to be pedantic then the number of subsets is 2^N  1, but technically, since every set includes the empty set { } then it's 2^N Aeternitatem modo est. Longa non est, paene nil. 

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