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Randomize a List problem
09-15-2020, 01:00 AM
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RE: Randomize a List problem
(09-14-2020 08:51 PM)Hlib Wrote:  FOR n t RAND ... then after many clicks we may get all set of lists (6 for #3 and 24 for #4).
Assuming that RAND can take any value from the interval [0,1] and taking into account the specifics of the ROLLD command, I calculated all possible options for the shown results for both versions of the program using the full search method. There is no error here. But let`s say we can`t be sure. So we need to get the formula.

For a list of 3 items, we have 3! = 6 permutations.
But, your suggested shuffling can have 3*3*3 = 27 ways.

By the pigeonhole principles, some will appear more often, some less (*)
Starting from {3,2,1}, and gone thru all 27 possible ROLLD shuffling, we have:

{3,2,1} × 5
{2,3,1} × 4
{3,1,2} × 5
{1,3,2} × 5
{2,1,3} × 4
{1,2,3} × 4

Shuffling will not be fair. I did a simulation, and confirmed this.

(*) even if one divides the other, there is still a possibility of unfair shuffling, depending on shuffling details.
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Randomize a List problem - Hlib - 09-14-2020, 04:38 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-14-2020, 06:08 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-14-2020, 07:32 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Hlib - 09-14-2020, 08:51 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-14-2020, 11:41 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Werner - 09-15-2020, 06:41 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Werner - 09-15-2020, 09:47 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-15-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - ijabbott - 09-15-2020, 06:39 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-15-2020, 08:56 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-15-2020, 09:34 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Werner - 09-16-2020, 06:43 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-16-2020, 11:51 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-15-2020 01:00 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Wes Loewer - 09-15-2020, 04:10 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-15-2020, 01:42 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Hlib - 09-15-2020, 03:57 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-15-2020, 07:53 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-17-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Hlib - 09-17-2020, 09:36 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-17-2020, 12:20 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-17-2020, 01:42 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-17-2020, 08:21 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - John Keith - 09-18-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-18-2020, 10:19 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 09-19-2020, 12:29 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - pier4r - 10-13-2020, 07:13 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - DavidM - 10-14-2020, 04:12 AM
RE: Randomize a List problem - Albert Chan - 10-15-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - DavidM - 10-15-2020, 06:24 PM
RE: Randomize a List problem - pier4r - 10-14-2020, 06:55 PM
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