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HP prime keys Message #1 Posted by Mic on 19 Apr 2013, 1:35 p.m. Brief analysis of the keys to the new color graphic calculator : http://www.calc-bank.com/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1904

Re: HP prime keys Message #2 Posted by Xavier A. (Brazil) on 19 Apr 2013, 9:38 p.m., in response to message #1 by Mic Merci, Mic.

Re: HP prime keys Message #3 Posted by Ethan Conner on 19 Apr 2013, 9:55 p.m., in response to message #1 by Mic I'm growing weary of your posted links that have multiple redirects for advertisements.

Re: HP prime keys Message #4 Posted by sjthomas on 19 Apr 2013, 10:22 p.m., in response to message #3 by Ethan Conner Your computer may be compromised or your ISP slipping in advertisements -- the link takes me directly to the site. Good luck.

Re: HP prime keys Message #5 Posted by Mike Morrow on 19 Apr 2013, 10:56 p.m., in response to message #3 by Ethan Conner The cited link takes me direct to the desired site.

Re: HP prime keys Message #6 Posted by Peter Murphy (Livermore) on 19 Apr 2013, 11:55 p.m., in response to message #3 by Ethan Conner No ads for me, either. They appear to an exception, not a rule.

Re: HP prime keys Message #7 Posted by BShoring on 20 Apr 2013, 2:57 p.m., in response to message #3 by Ethan Conner I, too, am getting a redirect on my iPod touch that attempts to open something in the App Store. I got this before when I clicked on a link to calc bank. Each time I shut it down before anything loaded.

Re: HP prime keys Message #8 Posted by Les Koller on 20 Apr 2013, 6:44 p.m., in response to message #3 by Ethan Conner As for the others, the link me straight to the mentioned site....no ads, no pop-ups. Better get that computer overhauled.

Re: HP prime keys Message #9 Posted by Ethan Conner on 21 Apr 2013, 3:37 a.m., in response to message #8 by Les Koller Let me be a bit more specific. This occurs when using my iphone. Quite frankly it's a little surprising considering that this forum exists in an ancient format to supposedly protect against spam and other nonsense. Yes i have the pop-up blocker turned on. I was hoping the moderator would see that someone is posting contaminated links in here but maybe that's not a problem.

Re: HP prime keys Message #10 Posted by Mike Morrow on 21 Apr 2013, 4:14 a.m., in response to message #9 by Ethan Conner Quote: This occurs when using my iphone. There's your problem! The Apple Syndicate...a religion whose true believers find it impossible to fault any blessing bestowed by its priesthood. Quote: I was hoping the moderator would see that someone is posting contaminated links... Contaminated links to which only Apple believers fall victim, apparently. Perhaps you should re-analyze the source of your problem! Quote: ...but maybe that's not a problem. Ya think?

Re: HP prime keys Message #11 Posted by Chris Smith on 21 Apr 2013, 4:21 a.m., in response to message #9 by Ethan Conner I've just tried it on my wife's iPhone 4s and its fine on that, my desktop pc, my laptop and my windows phone. I think this must be your ISP (whether via WiFi or your phone company) or you have developed an advertising profile which favours disreputable advertising.

Re: HP prime keys Message #12 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 21 Apr 2013, 8:17 a.m., in response to message #11 by Chris Smith Same here with my PC laptop running Windows 7 with Google Chrome browser, and on my iPad Mini with Safari. No problems.

Re: HP prime keys Message #13 Posted by Bruce Bergman on 21 Apr 2013, 11:29 a.m., in response to message #9 by Ethan Conner Having sent that link tthrough Fiddler2, I can tell you that it goes to no advertising sites. It goes directly to the destination site. There's something funky on your iPhone...

Re: HP prime keys Message #14 Posted by Gilles Carpentier on 20 Apr 2013, 8:38 a.m., in response to message #1 by Mic The unshifted SPACE key is an improvement compared to the 39II. I also like the return of the unshifted EEX key :D . The keyboard is for many aspects close to the 39GII but all in a better way. I also see a "user" key .... No such thing on the 39GII. Perhaps we can personalise the Prime keyboard wich is not possible with the 39GII, like on the 41/42/48..50

Re: HP prime keys Message #15 Posted by Lode on 20 Apr 2013, 3:36 p.m., in response to message #1 by Mic I don't see any rolldown, roll up or swap x<>y button, what's up with that??

Re: HP prime keys Message #16 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 20 Apr 2013, 4:08 p.m., in response to message #15 by Lode Neither can they be seen on the HP 50g. Rollup and Rolldown don't make sense on an infinite stack calculator. Most likely there will be shortcuts for DROP and SWAP when in "RPL mode", like backspace and left arrow on the 50g.

Re: HP prime keys Message #17 Posted by Gilles Carpentier on 20 Apr 2013, 4:42 p.m., in response to message #16 by Gerson W. Barbosa On the 50G you also have the 'interactive stack' with the UP arrow key which is very powerfull and allow kind of ROLLUP and ROLLDOWN (ROT and UNROT or ROLL etc.) and many other things. I also suppose that many commands will be accessible with the touch screen. Edited: 20 Apr 2013, 4:43 p.m.

Re: HP prime keys Message #18 Posted by Wes Loewer on 21 Apr 2013, 11:53 a.m., in response to message #17 by Gilles Carpentier Quote: I also suppose that many commands will be accessible with the touch screen. I'm very curious about the touch screen. Does this mean SAT/AP tests will allow (non-stylus) touch-screens? I saw this article recently concerning this issue: http://www.techpoweredmath.com/rumor-mill-college-board-change-rules-game/ Currently, the Casio ClassPad is not allowed, but the the Sharp EL-9600 series is allowed if used without the stylus. Interesting. -wes

Re: HP prime keys Message #19 Posted by Tim Wessman on 21 Apr 2013, 4:01 p.m., in response to message #16 by Gerson W. Barbosa The comma button has the same symbol as what you see on the 30b... TW

Re: HP prime keys Message #20 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 21 Apr 2013, 5:50 p.m., in response to message #19 by Tim Wessman Thanks! So it is also the SWAP key. I was wondering what that was. It looked like a pair of scissors or the aleph letter to me:-)

Re: HP prime keys Message #21 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 21 Apr 2013, 10:54 a.m., in response to message #1 by Mic I just took a closer look at the keyboard. What is going on with the X^Y ? The last time I saw that instead of Y^X was on my HP 35.

Re: HP prime keys Message #22 Posted by CompSystems on 21 Apr 2013, 5:06 p.m., in response to message #1 by Mic HP50G Skin for emu48+ (Keyboard Style HP-Prime) =) HP51? http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv021.cgi?read=216973 Edited: 26 Apr 2013, 12:12 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

Re: HP prime keys Message #23 Posted by Walter B on 21 Apr 2013, 11:57 p.m., in response to message #22 by CompSystems Welcome back to the design team :-) I like the first (upper) HP-51. It shall be completed, however, by assigning the red labels - and the blank keys. And the f-shifted REG and PRGM and PREFIX labels still don't mean anything without CLEAR - how about some evolution in 12 months? Come on! d:-) Edited: 22 Apr 2013, 12:06 a.m.

Re: HP prime keys Message #24 Posted by Martin Paech on 23 Apr 2013, 5:25 a.m., in response to message #23 by Walter B Quote: I like the first (upper) HP-51. It shall be completed, however, by assigning the red labels - and the blank keys. And the f-shifted REG and PRGM and PREFIX labels still don't mean anything without CLEAR - how about some evolution in 12 months? Come on! Thank you for the flowers, Walter! Unfortunately, there's no progress (but my Ph.D. thesis has evolved---approx. 200 (horrible) pages and still growing). And, please, forget my first rough sketch (the lower HP-51G). I think a really good skin has to be drafted from scratch, not by retouching a scan with 'Photoshop'. But I'm very slow with 'Illustrator' and even slower with my old CAD system 'Microstation' and I've no time left for this project. Above all, I'm dreaming about a complete new Voyager-style casing for (hopefully not) HP's last RPL calculator, made by rapid prototyping... BTW: Is there already a proposition for the casing design of the 43s? Greetings from the Westend Tower in Frankfurt! Martin Edited: 23 Apr 2013, 5:29 a.m.

Re: HP prime keys Message #25 Posted by Paul Dale on 23 Apr 2013, 5:41 a.m., in response to message #24 by Martin Paech Quote: BTW: Is there already a proposition for the casing design of the 43s? Walter has been working on the keyboard layout, however the physical design & implementation will be Eric's job I suspect. The software stack is complete vapour at the moment. - Pauli

Re: HP prime keys Message #26 Posted by Paul Dale on 23 Apr 2013, 5:40 a.m., in response to message #23 by Walter B The red button is obviously the OFF key. At least that's what all my big power tools use for stop. - Pauli

Re: HP prime keys Message #27 Posted by BD on 22 Apr 2013, 10:11 p.m., in response to message #22 by CompSystems The light blue against silver is pretty low contrast. I'd much prefer a black background.

Re: HP prime keys Message #28 Posted by CompSystems on 27 Apr 2013, 12:25 p.m., in response to message #22 by CompSystems My HP-Prime desing HD HP forum spanish http://www.adictoshp.org/topic/233-hp-prime-mejor-hardware-software-es-posible/

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