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Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #1 Posted by John Stewart on 8 Mar 2013, 12:52 a.m.

Hello all,

I'm new at this, having just bought two (!) HP-71Bs off eBay. Now I'm wondering if there's any way I can connect these machines to (1) modern desktops, (2) electrical equipment like stepping motors etc., (3) each other! I have HP-IL interfaces, which I understand to be based on IEE-488

Thank you.

jds

      
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #2 Posted by Garth Wilson on 8 Mar 2013, 1:17 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by John Stewart

Quote:
I have HP-IL interfaces, which I understand to be based on IEE-488
Yes, it's basically a serial implementation of it. The HP82169A is the interface converter between HPIL and HPIB (or IEEE-488), and since the two are so similar, the converter has a mode where it's nearly transparent, so equipment on the IEEE-488 side looks like it's on HPIL. I've used it to connect lots of lab equipment. There's also the HP82165A HPIL-to-parallel converter, the HP81164A HPIL-to-serial (RS-232) converter (and the FSI164A near-equivalent from Firmware Spelialists that has more channels), and another smaller parallel converter whose number I can't think of right now. I'm sure someone else will tell you about the PIL box and another similar product for interfacing to PCs. (I'm not qualified.)
            
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #3 Posted by Dan Grelinger on 8 Mar 2013, 10:46 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Garth Wilson

Don't forget the HP 82166A! HP-IL to Parallel Bus converter. It is like the HP165A, but smaller and has pins on the Parallel side instead of the plug.

                  
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #4 Posted by Garth Wilson on 8 Mar 2013, 2:14 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Dan Grelinger

Thanks. That's the one I was trying to remember.

            
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #5 Posted by Sylvain Cote on 8 Mar 2013, 8:23 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Garth Wilson

The combination of the PIL-Box from Jean-François Garnier
with the HP-IL emulators of Christoph Gießelink
are the modern day HP-IL tools that allow you transfer files
(programs, data, etc) between the HP-41/71/75 and the PC

                  
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #6 Posted by John Stewart on 8 Mar 2013, 10:24 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Sylvain Cote

I wrote to Garnier about his PIL-Box but he never responded. Does anyone know if he still builds the things?

Thanks,

jds

                        
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #7 Posted by Sylvain Cote on 8 Mar 2013, 11:27 p.m.,
in response to message #6 by John Stewart

The last time I exchange emails with JF was a year ago.
I need to order another PIL-Box for my testing.
I will communicate with him in three weeks to confirm the price and availability.
I will let you known of the result.
Best regards,
Sylvain

                              
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #8 Posted by John Stewart on 8 Mar 2013, 11:40 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Sylvain Cote

Thank you Sylvain, I appreciate it.

                                    
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #9 Posted by Sylvain Cote on 10 Mar 2013, 2:19 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by John Stewart

Hello John,

I have contacted Jean-Francois yesterday (march 9) and I received he's replied today (march 10).
So, may be the email you sent was lost or something happen, but if you contact him he will surely reply within a day or two.

Best regards,

Sylvain

edit: corrected typos

Edited: 10 Mar 2013, 6:10 p.m.

                                          
Re: Fresh at this but excited: questions about 71B connectivity
Message #10 Posted by Michael Burr on 14 Mar 2013, 1:04 a.m.,
in response to message #9 by Sylvain Cote

So... can you provide any details about price and availability. I'm seriously interested in the PIL-Box too...

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