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Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #1 Posted by Walt Maken on 30 Nov 2012, 7:06 a.m.

The Swiss company making those credit-card sized clones of the HP-11,HP-12, HP-15 and HP-16 have released their Silver Edition second generation units this past Monday, November 18, 2012. They have also changed their website name from RPN-Calc.ch to www.SwissMicros.com . Nice looking units, also with titanium cases in 3 colors, and new silver leather pouch as well as a black leather flip open pouch.

      
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #2 Posted by C.Ret on 30 Nov 2012, 7:50 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Walt Maken

Hi,

Curiously, none of the photos in the new site show an unit powered ON.

How is the display looking ?

Is it so bad that no marketing document may show it ?

            
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #3 Posted by Harald on 30 Nov 2012, 9:08 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by C.Ret

Unless the display in the new version is a step down from the old one, there is nothing to worry about. I am hoping for an improved keyboard though. That was the only thing I didn't like about the old units.

            
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #4 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 30 Nov 2012, 10:13 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by C.Ret

Quote:
How is the display looking ?
Dot matrix, low contrast (probably due to the glued overlay covering the whole front). Works, but I have seen much nicer displays. The real showstopper is the keyboard, which makes it impossible to fluently use the calculator.

Still nice. Hope they have licensed the firmware properly to stay in business for longer.

                  
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #5 Posted by Nigel J Dowrick on 30 Nov 2012, 10:15 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Thomas Radtke

Is this comment based on the new machines (silver edition) or the older machines?

Nigel (UK)

                        
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #6 Posted by Walter B on 30 Nov 2012, 10:19 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Nigel J Dowrick

IMHO the new machines can't be delivered yet.

                              
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #7 Posted by Harald on 30 Nov 2012, 11:36 a.m.,
in response to message #6 by Walter B

I was under the impression I would be getting one soon. At least I haven't heard anything suggesting otherwise.

                        
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #8 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 30 Nov 2012, 10:30 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Nigel J Dowrick

I have one of the first batch, so they might have improved the hardware. OTOH, I'd expect them to communicate exactly that.

                              
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #9 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 30 Nov 2012, 10:37 a.m.,
in response to message #8 by Thomas Radtke

Do you mean the original one with the non-metal case ? The keyboards on those are bad, but the second generation with the aluminum case has a much better keyboard. They have promised a better keyboard on the latest version with the titanium case, so maybe it will be more usable. Anyway, I've ordered a new DM-15, so hopefully I'll find out soon.

                                    
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #10 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 30 Nov 2012, 11:16 a.m.,
in response to message #9 by Michael de Estrada

Quote:
Do you mean the original one with the non-metal case ?
Yes, sorry if I caused some confusion. I don't know anything about later models.

Quote:
They have promised a better keyboard on the latest version with the titanium case, so maybe it will be more usable.
Missed that. Anyway, I'll wait for customer comments before even considering buying another one.
                                    
Re: Swiss clones of the HP Voyager series
Message #11 Posted by Harald on 30 Nov 2012, 11:40 a.m.,
in response to message #9 by Michael de Estrada

Quote:
Do you mean the original one with the non-metal case ? The keyboards on those are bad, but the second generation with the aluminum case has a much better keyboard.
I only have one from the second batch. So I don't know what the keyboard was like on the first batch. Mine isn't great either though.
Quote:
They have promised a better keyboard on the latest version with the titanium case, so maybe it will be more usable.
That confused me, too. I am not sure if the keyboard is supposed to be improved over the first batch, or the second batch.
Quote:
Anyway, I've ordered a new DM-15, so hopefully I'll find out soon.
Me too, we shall see if there are any improvements when it gets here..


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