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What do you think of this project??? Message #1 Posted by Namir on 13 Sept 2012, 10:50 a.m. Hi All, What do you think about an emulator for the TI-58 that runs in RPN??? The idea may shock you, but think about it again? I am willing to do it if Paul Houbert, the author of the TI-58C emulator is willing to help with some ground work. The proposed emulator would be like the HP-67 married the TI-58/59 and they had a child! Namir Edited: 13 Sept 2012, 12:32 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #2 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 13 Sept 2012, 12:13 p.m., in response to message #1 by Namir I'm not sure if I got you right: A TI-58 with RPN entry logic? I've often thought how great a calculator xyz could have been if it only were RPN (my absolute favourite would be the Commodore SR4190R/SR9190R). On a second thought, I fear feature creep. Certainly I would put more and more into it if I were the master of such a project :-D. Nice idea! :-) Edited: 13 Sept 2012, 12:15 p.m.

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #3 Posted by Namir on 13 Sept 2012, 12:31 p.m., in response to message #2 by Thomas Radtke Pierre Houbert has really and truly masted the interface and offers tons of skins for his excellent TI-58C emulator. My favorite skins are those of the HP-65 and TI-88!! If he is using Visual Basic, I will need the basic GUI code to interface with clicking the various buttons. I have written an HP-67 emulator, so I have the code that I can adapt for the TI-58C and support what happens AFTER you click the buttons. :-) Namir

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #4 Posted by gene wright on 13 Sept 2012, 12:44 p.m., in response to message #3 by Namir So the TI-58C RPN would have code like this? = is ENTER below. This is stupid code and does nothing but ... X<>Y and Roll Down would have to be mapped to what? ( and ) ? LBL A 5 = 6 SBR SIN * R/S LBL SIN SIN INV SBR

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #5 Posted by Namir on 13 Sept 2012, 7:00 p.m., in response to message #4 by gene wright You are correct!

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #6 Posted by Maximilian Hohmann on 13 Sept 2012, 1:22 p.m., in response to message #1 by Namir Hello! Quote: The proposed emulator would be like the HP-67 married the TI-58/59 and they had a child! I don't know. I like the Hp-67 very much and I like my Ti-59 (never had a 58) very much, but I strongly doubt that I will like their children. My favourite function on the Hp-67 is HMS+ and my favourite function of the Ti is "(" (and ")" together with operator precedence - Ti calls this combination AOS :-) ) and the children will have neither. The very very best feature of those two calculators however is the physical keyboard of the HP-67 and it's physical LED display. No emulator can come remotely close to those, so wasted effort as far as I am concerned. Regards - max Edited: 13 Sept 2012, 1:24 p.m.

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #7 Posted by David Hayden on 13 Sept 2012, 5:07 p.m., in response to message #1 by Namir Interesting idea. I'll admit that I wouldn't use it myself, but don't let me discourage you :). I do have some questions though. Would algebraic entry still be possible, or only RPN? If only RPN, then that means existing programs wouldn't work, right? Or am I missing something? How deep would the stack be? As I recall, the 58C allows 9 levels of nested parentheses, which means a 9-level stack. Dave

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #8 Posted by Namir on 13 Sept 2012, 7:03 p.m., in response to message #7 by David Hayden The RPN version of the TI-58/59 is certainly not compatible with the AOS version. The stack is 4-elements high. I might call the registers, X, T, U, V where V is the logical bottom of the stack. I am using the names X and T for the logical top two registers so that the key X<>t would be like X<>Y on HP calculators. The ( and ) keys would be something like Roll Down and Roll Up. namir Edited: 13 Sept 2012, 7:04 p.m.

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #9 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 14 Sept 2012, 2:31 a.m., in response to message #1 by Namir I think one of the strong points of the TI were the solid state software modules. This software would need a complete rewrite (or an AOS mode).

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #10 Posted by Namir on 14 Sept 2012, 8:16 a.m., in response to message #9 by Marcus von Cube, Germany Hmmmmmmmm ... you got me there!!!! :-( Namir

Re: What do you think of this project??? Message #11 Posted by Eddie W. Shore on 16 Sept 2012, 3:56 p.m., in response to message #1 by Namir Quote: Hi All, What do you think about an emulator for the TI-58 that runs in RPN??? The idea may shock you, but think about it again? I am willing to do it if Paul Houbert, the author of the TI-58C emulator is willing to help with some ground work. The proposed emulator would be like the HP-67 married the TI-58/59 and they had a child! Namir Go for it.

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