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It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #1 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 16 Sept 2011, 4:36 p.m.

The TAS 15c LE we discussed yesterday now over $300. Apparently the bidders are unaware of the new model, they did not take the out offered by the seller, and they don't read this forum.

He will now be able to claim that he forewarned them that they were not getting an original.

So, unfortunately, we (who emailed him) have unwittingly aided his original fraud attempt.

      
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #2 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 16 Sept 2011, 4:52 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Martin Pinckney

What makes you think the seller is a "he" ?

            
Regardless, the original HP 15C retains its value
Message #3 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 16 Sept 2011, 5:39 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Michael de Estrada

Original HP 15C auction on TAS

            
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #4 Posted by Martin Pinckney on 16 Sept 2011, 5:52 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Michael de Estrada

Hunch.

      
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #5 Posted by Paul Gaster on 16 Sept 2011, 6:01 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Martin Pinckney

Quote:
He will now be able to claim that he forewarned them that they were not getting an original.
I understand, and he can claim that, but his claim would be BS in my opinion. The top bidder may have put in a high top bid and has not come back to check on the auction. Ebay will automatically increase the buyer's bid and let him know by email if he has been outbid. Even if the person came back to check on things, how would you catch that something changed in the auction? The main picture is the same and if you are bidding on multiple items you probably won't go into each item to read it again. You would typically just look at your list of items you are bidding on. You read the listing the first time before bidding and don't expect people to make radical changes to their listings later. You shouldn't have to watch people like a hawk to make sure you don't get screwed.


Keep in mind my little rant here isn't directed at you. I am upset with the seller for how this has been handled.

            
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #6 Posted by Lincoln R. on 16 Sept 2011, 6:03 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Paul Gaster

And now the slightly more honest, but nonetheless annoying scalpers have arrived: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-15C-Limited-Edition-Scientific-Calculator-/170697671543?pt=Calculators&hash=item27be5fc377

                  
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #7 Posted by Ethan Conner on 16 Sept 2011, 6:18 p.m.,
in response to message #6 by Lincoln R.

Did you happen to notice that seller's approval rating? Most companies and or politicians would be pleased with 97 % but imo that's borderline for TAS.

                        
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #8 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 16 Sept 2011, 6:27 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Ethan Conner

That's bogus, though. Just one red in the last year, and does not seem justified. When you have very few sales, one red can drastically affect your rating. Sometimes people leave reds when they shouldn't.

Edited: 16 Sept 2011, 6:27 p.m.

                              
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #9 Posted by Ethan Conner on 16 Sept 2011, 6:41 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by Michael de Estrada

That's why i used the term "borderline" to leave a little wiggle room to judge on it's merits.

      
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #10 Posted by Lincoln R. on 16 Sept 2011, 7:27 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Martin Pinckney

Ouch. this is almost painful to watch. Some buyer is going to be very sorely disappointed. Others may disagree, but I wouldn't pay the current bid amount for a new in box original 15C.

            
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #11 Posted by Ethan Conner on 16 Sept 2011, 7:54 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by Lincoln R.

356.00 dollars worth of disapointed when they find an le in the box.

                  
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #12 Posted by Bart (UK) on 17 Sept 2011, 6:40 a.m.,
in response to message #11 by Ethan Conner

Or worse, the buyer thinks it's a LE from the 1980's (in the line of like the 32S & 14B), and is totally unaware that it is a current release.

            
Re: It had to happen sooner or later revisited
Message #13 Posted by Bart (UK) on 17 Sept 2011, 6:46 a.m.,
in response to message #10 by Lincoln R.

Quote:
Ouch. this is almost painful to watch. Some buyer is going to be very sorely disappointed. Others may disagree, but I wouldn't pay the current bid amount for a new in box original 15C.
These are the kind of buyers that sellers like Co* feed on. Unfortunately.


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