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Correct 15C information Message #1 Posted by Tim Wessman on 1 Sept 2011, 3:32 p.m. Exact same as 12c+ internally. Comes in a "gift box" that shows the calculator through the front. User's Handbook was recreated from scratch. Printed and in box. Searchable copy on CD. Manual took forever to get it nearly perfect. Windows emulator on CD. AFH was not ready in time to put on CD - will be available for download. There are units slated for Europe. Is still being produced (mainly due to delay getting the manual "perfect" causing delay). There is the normal "sticker" serial on the back, and an individual enumeration number at the bottom. HHC last year everyone received one of these (at least a non-final version that had printed key colors ala 12cp). Thanks be to them for doing final bug checking to find any remaining issues. A large public thank you to everyone who respected the CDAs and did not discuss it prematurely. . .unlike our distributors and internal web pages. :-( TW 12/15C example box Example of enumeration. Is that...??? Yes, it is! :-) Unit Back of unit (not final, missing enumeration number at bottom right). Edited: 1 Sept 2011, 4:45 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

Re: Correct 15C information Message #2 Posted by Juergen Keller on 1 Sept 2011, 3:41 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Gift box? Collector's like them! Printed manual? That's great! Windows Emulator? Comes in very handy! Sounds very promising, I'll have a good dream tonight ;-)

Re: Correct 15C information Message #3 Posted by Manolo Sobrino on 1 Sept 2011, 3:49 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Chapeau!

Re: Correct 15C information Message #4 Posted by Kiyoshi Akima on 1 Sept 2011, 3:53 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman As an HHC 2010 attendee, is it possible to get the current (final) firmware for flashing?

Re: Correct 15C information Message #5 Posted by Tim Wessman on 1 Sept 2011, 4:04 p.m., in response to message #4 by Kiyoshi Akima Gene has it. TW

Re: Correct 15C information Message #6 Posted by Namir on 1 Sept 2011, 4:05 p.m., in response to message #4 by Kiyoshi Akima I don't see why not if it is available. Besides, there will be wp34s firmware update parties!!! :-)

Re: Correct 15C information Message #7 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 1 Sept 2011, 4:08 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Thank you very much for the pictures. May we take a look at the back of the new HP-15C also?

Re: Correct 15C information Message #8 Posted by Tim Wessman on 1 Sept 2011, 4:39 p.m., in response to message #7 by Gerson W. Barbosa I don't have one that shows the enumeration. It will be similar to the image added in the top post. TW

Re: Correct 15C information Message #9 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 1 Sept 2011, 4:46 p.m., in response to message #8 by Tim Wessman Well, I was just curious about how they dealt with the larger battery cover, as there's a lot of information on the original 15C back plate, but I can wait :-)

Re: Correct 15C information Message #10 Posted by Tim Wessman on 1 Sept 2011, 7:24 p.m., in response to message #9 by Gerson W. Barbosa It is up on the original post now. No need to wait. TW

(NT) Very nice, thanks! Message #11 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 1 Sept 2011, 7:27 p.m., in response to message #10 by Tim Wessman

Re: Correct 15C information Message #12 Posted by M. Joury on 1 Sept 2011, 4:09 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Hi Tim, Thanks for the corrections and pictures! -Marwan

Re: Correct 15C information Message #13 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 1 Sept 2011, 4:15 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Please tell me the manual is spiral bound and heavy stock.

Re: Correct 15C information Message #14 Posted by Tim Wessman on 1 Sept 2011, 4:36 p.m., in response to message #13 by Michael de Estrada Unfortunately not. We tried, but it couldn't be done. TW

Re: Correct 15C information Message #15 Posted by Michael de Estrada on 1 Sept 2011, 4:43 p.m., in response to message #14 by Tim Wessman Thanks for trying. At least I have my original HP-15C spriral bound handbooks.

Re: Correct 15C information Message #16 Posted by Walter B on 1 Sept 2011, 4:30 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Quote: HHC last year everyone received one of these (at least a non-final version that had printed key colors ala 12cp). Thanks be to them for doing final bug checking to find any remaining issues. Why are those HHC taking place so far off always? [envy]

Re: Correct 15C information Message #17 Posted by gene wright on 1 Sept 2011, 4:32 p.m., in response to message #16 by Walter B Walter, just set up a gathering near you, get at least 50 people to commit to attending and voila' :-) Actually, the British club has mini-gatherings all the time, so ping someone in HPCC to get one going.

Re: Correct 15C information Message #18 Posted by Bill Carter on 1 Sept 2011, 5:36 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Wow, just... wow. After years of lurking, I just have to say thank you to Tim and everybody at HP's calculator group. I've been Voyager-less for years (too stubborn to pony up on TAS), and I don't do nearly the calculations that I did when I was younger. Still, I look forward to getting my hands on one of these and using it as my "daily driver". It may be old tech, but the Voyagers just feel right. Thank you!

Re: Correct 15C information Message #19 Posted by Norman Dziedzic on 1 Sept 2011, 5:57 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Never thought I would think a calculator is beautiful but it is! Beautiful, just beautiful! Thank you! Edited: 1 Sept 2011, 6:44 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

Re: Correct 15C information Message #20 Posted by Erturk Kocalar on 1 Sept 2011, 6:15 p.m., in response to message #19 by Norman Dziedzic Thanks guys. this made my day. Yey !!!

Re: Correct 15C information Message #21 Posted by uhmgawa on 1 Sept 2011, 6:37 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Quote: Exact same as 12c+ internally. I sense a pending flurry of alternate firmware and hardware projects.. Quote: User's Handbook was recreated from scratch. Printed and in box. Searchable copy on CD. Manual took forever to get it nearly perfect. ... AFH was not ready in time to put on CD - will be available for download. Excellent. Not to at all diminish the balance of the engineering effort but I'd imagine recreating both documents was no trivial task. Quote: HHC last year everyone received one of these (at least a non-final version that had printed key colors ala 12cp). I'm a bit curious of that statement above. Are the key cap legends of the 15c+ double shot molded or surface printed? I personally find myself drowning in Voyagers. But seeing the candy on the table may make it difficult to pass up the honor of adding this specimen to the collection. Nice job!

Is there a PDF brochure? Message #22 Posted by snaggs on 1 Sept 2011, 6:42 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman ....that details the product with pretty pictures? :)

Re: Correct 15C information Message #23 Posted by Glenn Dowdy on 1 Sept 2011, 7:14 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Quote: Exact same as 12c+ internally. Comes in a "gift box" that shows the calculator through the front. User's Handbook was recreated from scratch. Printed and in box. Searchable copy on CD. Manual took forever to get it nearly perfect. Windows emulator on CD. AFH was not ready in time to put on CD - will be available for download. There are units slated for Europe. Is still being produced (mainly due to delay getting the manual "perfect" causing delay). In fact, here's a very recent photo of the 15c on the production line: And looks like we made at least this many:

Re: Correct 15C information Message #24 Posted by Erturk Kocalar on 1 Sept 2011, 7:57 p.m., in response to message #23 by Glenn Dowdy Can't wait for to get mine. I miss those production lines and the green conveyor belts and the smell of the factory. (hopefully I will be in China in this Oct; at a different company of course :)).. erturk

Re: Correct 15C information Message #25 Posted by hpnut on 6 Sept 2011, 8:22 a.m., in response to message #23 by Glenn Dowdy Hi Tim, i am keen to know what part of "production" does US HP Calculator Division (or Personal Systems Group) do? the 15C is made in China, does that relegate US HP to packaging it nicely for customers? sorry I meant this question in a nice way, I have been an HP calculator user since 1978 :-) hpnut in Malaysia oh, btw the 12C was once made in Penang, Malaysia. i believe that unit is now an Agilent T&M facility. You really should come work here if Carly's successors decide to close the calculator division :-(

Re: Correct 15C information Message #26 Posted by Les Bell on 1 Sept 2011, 8:05 p.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Thanks for the information and pics, Tim. I've been relying on my ancient 16C for a small pocketable calculator for many years, not wanting to risk my aging 41CX. I'll finally be able to get properly scientific, not just computer scientific. ;) I don't think I've anticipated the arrival of a calculator so much since I bought my 45 back in 1974. --- Les Bell [http://www.lesbell.com.au]

Re: Correct 15C information Message #27 Posted by Dan W on 1 Sept 2011, 8:35 p.m., in response to message #26 by Les Bell Well thanks Tim and everyone involved in the production. I've been coveting a 15C ever since the mid 80's when I was too poor and bought an 11C instead. This will be my first NEW HP calculator since my 42S bought in 1989.

Re: Correct 15C information Message #28 Posted by Tim Wessman on 1 Sept 2011, 10:20 p.m., in response to message #27 by Dan W Everybody keeps thanking me, but I didn't really do anything on this other then be around when it came out. :-) It existed in one form or another for a couple of years now. Sam Kim, former R&D manager, was the one who pushed to get the first batch made when the first set of 12c+ units was made. Cyrille did the excellent work on the emulator and original 12c+ code. TW

Re: Correct 15C information Message #29 Posted by Glenn Dowdy on 1 Sept 2011, 11:42 p.m., in response to message #28 by Tim Wessman Quote: Everybody keeps thanking me, but I didn't really do anything on this other then be around when it came out. :-) It existed in one form or another for a couple of years now. Sam Kim, former R&D manager, was the one who pushed to get the first batch made when the first set of 12c+ units was made. Cyrille did the excellent work on the emulator and original 12c+ code. TW What's the reset/reflash process like?

Re: Correct 15C information Message #30 Posted by Walter B on 2 Sept 2011, 1:32 a.m., in response to message #29 by Glenn Dowdy Heh, heh, wait it ;-) Honestly, I'd guess pretty similar to the one of the new 12C d8-)

Re: Correct 15C information Message #31 Posted by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) on 2 Sept 2011, 4:06 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Wow! And HOW this "2011-04-15" on LCD? How many unit will be produced? And how many will be sale in Hungary??? :'-(((((

Re: Correct 15C information Message #32 Posted by Tim Wessman on 2 Sept 2011, 10:40 a.m., in response to message #31 by Csaba Tizedes (Hungary) The date is the firmware version number. We are using dates now as it is much easier to understand and relate to something. TW

Re: Correct 15C information Message #33 Posted by svisvanatha on 2 Sept 2011, 7:17 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman Quote: HHC last year everyone received one of these (at least a non-final version that had printed key colors ala 12cp). Thanks be to them for doing final bug checking to find any remaining issues. A large public thank you to everyone who respected the CDAs and did not discuss it prematurely. . .unlike our distributors and internal web pages. :-( It is commendable that HP was bold enough to distribute early 15C LE's in this manner! And also commendable that those with units for a year now (!!!!) respected their CDA's. (although I did suspect that certain people had them in their possession). Nice job all around!. Question for Tim or Anyone else at HP: Will any online or brick-and-mortar stores be selling them in Canada? Staples Canada has the new 12C in store, can we expect the same for the 15C LE? Many thanks.

Re: Correct 15C information Message #34 Posted by Steve Cote on 5 Sept 2011, 12:10 a.m., in response to message #1 by Tim Wessman It's great to read here that a printed manual is included with the 15c. However, at the HP website, it says the HP-15c is packaged in a keepsake gift box & for 'What's in the Box' it mentions a Manual on CD is included but says nothing about a printed manual.

Re: Correct 15C information Message #35 Posted by Lincoln R. on 6 Sept 2011, 3:37 p.m., in response to message #34 by Steve Cote Tim Wessman's initial post of 15C info said that there would be a print manual. I'm inclined to believe him over whatever's floating around hp.com these days since assorted misinformation has already been found there (15C listed in printer division, listed as having algebraic mode, etc.)

Re: Correct 15C information Message #36 Posted by Dan W on 6 Sept 2011, 8:54 p.m., in response to message #35 by Lincoln R. I hope so. I wonder if they will changes the photos on the original cover. That pic of Saturn in particular is dated. But there have been some spectacular photos of Saturn from Cassini.

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