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MCODE tools: Asking for your opinion
Message #1 Posted by Geir Isene on 17 Jan 2010, 12:03 p.m.

Premise: There are 4*4K available space to load with excellent MCODE programming tools.

Problem: I am looking at the following as the top tools (all 4K) to use for MCODE'ing:

David Assmbler
David Assmebler Labels Rom
Dissassembler 4D
Dissassembler 4D Labels Rom
ML ROM

Which 4 out of the list of 5 would you recommend (or are there other tools you would include instead)?

      
Re: MCODE tools: Asking for your opinion
Message #2 Posted by Meindert Kuipers on 17 Jan 2010, 12:27 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Geir Isene

I always have David (with the Labels, another 4K) when doing mcode experiments. The ML ROM is a collection of tools which is nice to have, but not vital. In general I use the MLDL2000 for mcoding (what else ..;), in combination with SDK41. SDK 41 is my official source with comments and easy to maintain. For small and quick changes I do inline modification with David, otherwise I simply change the source, run assembler and linker and upload the new code with M2kM

Meindert

      
Re: MCODE tools: Asking for your opinion
Message #3 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 17 Jan 2010, 1:11 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Geir Isene

Hi, Geir;

in the few exploratory experiments I've made, I used David Assembler + Labels (you 'see what you get') and Meindertīs M2KROM.rom. As he says, it is a slightly modified ML ROM but I think M2KROM is better than ML ROM. I also have used MLDL2000 for must of the hardwork because it has plenty of space and you can easily 'plug it in' and save your work in the computer hardisk. Diegoīs NoV-series are a 'must have', too, and they occupy 'no space at all'. I have a NoVRAM and a NoV32 along with the two MLDL2000 units.

Anyway, I must confess I began 'stepping into' MCode with HEPAX' HEXEDIT, but HEPAX is a 16K-ROM, and you are mentioning only 4K-ROM, right? For me, it is easy to use if you are a beginner because it shows current memory contents before changing and you see, side by side, what you had and what you are adding . As you get skills, the other tools may give you a different perspective.

If I have to choose, I'd have HEPAX HEXEDIT and Davidīs ASSM with labels in the same ROM, with a few complementary tools. As I have not yet gone so far in MCoding, I can only think of insertion and copy-paste plus some tools to help building MCODE+USERCODE ROMīs.

Cheers.

Luiz (Brazil)

Edited: 17 Jan 2010, 1:21 p.m.

            
Re: MCODE tools: Asking for your opinion
Message #4 Posted by Geir Isene on 17 Jan 2010, 1:27 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

Where do I get the M2KROM?

I am looking at filling 4 pages in my NoV-64 with the MCODE tools, so yes - I do have the HEPAX as well :-)

Edit: Found the M2KROM.

Edited: 17 Jan 2010, 1:56 p.m.


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