HP Forum Archive 17

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O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #1 Posted by Paul Brogger on 1 Oct 2007, 5:57 p.m. HHC2007, that is. Some of us weren't there . . . (Any freebies -- or announcements -- worthy of mention?) (Sure has been quiet around here -- as if everyone is off at some convention or something!) Edited: 1 Oct 2007, 6:17 p.m. after one or more responses were posted

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #2 Posted by Don Shepherd on 1 Oct 2007, 6:08 p.m., in response to message #1 by Paul Brogger Hey Paul, I'm just back from it. I'm sure Gene and Richard will respond. All I can say is GREAT!!!!!

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #3 Posted by Les Bell on 1 Oct 2007, 6:35 p.m., in response to message #1 by Paul Brogger Aaahhh . . . Of course! I'd been wondering why things were so quiet around here. Best, --- Les [http://www.lesbell.com.au]

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #4 Posted by db (martinez, ca.) on 1 Oct 2007, 7:33 p.m., in response to message #1 by Paul Brogger It was real good, well worth the expense and time. Some highlights to me were: >A free 35s, caoching on it by Gene, and Ted's talk encouraging people to develope and market applications for it (and his offering help to anyone doing so). >The revelation by John Cadick that every electrical device is a fuse. That splanes it Lucy. >The good food provided by hp and beer after hours (we were on our own there). >Tim Wessmans explanation of why GPS says you can be here........and there too. I will quote that, but i won't give him credit. >Eric Rechlin's "perverse pleasure" in describing how he developed and markets a cable for the 50g at $20 shipped - that Samson was gouging over $70 for. I think he should raise the price a bit though, after i buy mine. >The Q&A session with Cyrille and Sam - Cyrille and Sam being there at all - and having their boss Wing attend and be interested in this too. >Cyrille's project that we can't talk about. ...and of course, seeing Mr. T.I., the Datamath Museum's Joerg Woerner, using his new HP35s in RPN mode for 2 days without a hitch. I think we made a convert.

Hey Dennis! Message #5 Posted by Gene Wright on 2 Oct 2007, 10:10 a.m., in response to message #4 by db (martinez, ca.) Eric Smith has your door prize. Email him to arrange a time to visit to pick it up!

Re: Hey Dennis! Message #6 Posted by Gene Wright on 2 Oct 2007, 3:51 p.m., in response to message #5 by Gene Wright Um, on second thought, I can't remember if Eric has it or if Ted Kerber has it. One of the two...honest! And, you actually have TWO door prizes you won...so email one of them. :-)

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #7 Posted by Antonio Maschio (Italy) on 2 Oct 2007, 12:31 p.m., in response to message #4 by db (martinez, ca.) Quote: >Cyrille's project that we can't talk about. Why? What is it about? Can you give some details, at least? You simply cannot write something like this on *this* Forum and expect it won't rise any curiosity! -- Antonio

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #8 Posted by Walter B on 2 Oct 2007, 12:46 p.m., in response to message #7 by Antonio Maschio (Italy) Buona sera, Antonio, since I didn't attend HHC2007 either (though contributed a tiny bit) I am free to guess. Let's try based on experience: On HHC2006, there was a talk given under an NDA (=non disclosure agreement, quite popular in USA), and 9 months later (seems to be a natural constant :) ) it turned out to have covered the HP35s or however this baby was called then. So, if an R&D person has a project, what will it be about?!? So, let us rejoice and sing and dance (end of quotation) -- and hope that some of the ideas of this forum or at least those presented on HHC2007 will in whatever way succeed diffusing into said project :) so the output will be at least as nice as the last one :)) HTH, Walter Edited: 2 Oct 2007, 12:48 p.m.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #9 Posted by Dave Hicks on 2 Oct 2007, 12:53 p.m., in response to message #7 by Antonio Maschio (Italy) Quote: Can you give some details, at least? Sorry but it was all NDA'd. I didn't actually read the NDA before signing it, but I don't think they usually contain a "some details are OK" clause. On the hand, since you didn't sign it, your curiosity is completely legal. :-) I don't mean to spoil the fun, but the day we break the NDA is the day those cool futures presentations from Cyrille stop. Try to get to an HHC sometime if you can!

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #10 Posted by Arne Halvorsen (Norway) on 2 Oct 2007, 1:06 p.m., in response to message #9 by Dave Hicks This is what we do: Poor bastards that could not go to the party makes posts trying to guess whats comming. Lucky guys make fun at posts way of mark, but not if close to home. Its an iterative process...

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #11 Posted by Seth Morabito on 2 Oct 2007, 12:09 a.m., in response to message #1 by Paul Brogger It was my first HHC ever, and boy I'm glad I went. I had a wonderful time. HP was extraordinarily generous in letting us use and abuse their space for two days, and I want to say a public thank you to our hosts. My highlight was finally getting to meet Sam Kim and Cyrille de Brebisson. These guys are passionate about calculators. They were also running around all day Saturday and most of Sunday doing things like getting ice and drinks and setting up snacks. Talk about involvement! You don't expect an HP product manager to be getting drinks for you, but Sam seemed happy to be doing so. I came away from the meeting with renewed confidence in the direction HP is taking. They gave us a good insight into their world, and I'm extremely grateful. The division is in really good hands right now. And no, they couldn't tell us about any new product ship dates, so we don't know anything more about that than you guys do :) I would say that if you're thinking about it, do try to come next year. It was well worth the travel for me.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #12 Posted by Wayne Brown on 2 Oct 2007, 7:20 a.m., in response to message #11 by Seth Morabito Quote: I would say that if you're thinking about it, do try to come next year. If they ever have one that focuses only on the old machines (no new stuff at all), and doesn't involve any official presence from HP, I'd love to be there.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #13 Posted by Bernard Rochlin on 2 Oct 2007, 9:06 p.m., in response to message #1 by Paul Brogger Is the HP50g the end of the road? or have without giving and secrets away has Hewlett-Packard something better up their sleeves?

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #14 Posted by Gene Wright on 2 Oct 2007, 9:16 p.m., in response to message #13 by Bernard Rochlin Again, how can any possible answer to that avoid violating a non-disclosure agreement! C'mon people! Be reasonable! Gene P.S. That said, unless HP exits the calculator business, which I consider unlikely, there should be calculators sold over the next 10 years that are not being sold today. Some sort of new calculator is bound to be introduced.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #15 Posted by DaveJ on 2 Oct 2007, 10:17 p.m., in response to message #14 by Gene Wright Quote: Again, how can any possible answer to that avoid violating a non-disclosure agreement! C'mon people! Be reasonable! Gene P.S. That said, unless HP exits the calculator business, which I consider unlikely, there should be calculators sold over the next 10 years that are not being sold today. Some sort of new calculator is bound to be introduced. I'll put my order in now then: Can I just have a nice basic non-programmable scientific calculator with lots of dedicated keys please! (with the new old style look and feel of course) Dave.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #16 Posted by Eric Smith on 2 Oct 2007, 11:27 p.m., in response to message #15 by DaveJ Quote: Can I just have a nice basic non-programmable scientific calculator with lots of dedicated keys please! (with the new old style look and feel of course) Sure, they're readily available. You can buy them on eBay.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #17 Posted by DaveJ on 2 Oct 2007, 11:30 p.m., in response to message #16 by Eric Smith Quote: Sure, they're readily available. You can buy them on eBay. I want that "new product smell". Dave.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #18 Posted by Eric Smith on 3 Oct 2007, 12:14 a.m., in response to message #17 by DaveJ Just buy yourself some Medo Industries Ozium OZ-22 spray. Problem solved!

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #19 Posted by Eddie W. Shore on 3 Oct 2007, 9:26 a.m., in response to message #1 by Paul Brogger Awesome. I believe there was a record number of participants this year. We went all day Saturday, literally, starting at 8:00 in the morning to almost 10:00 that night. Some of the many highlights: many calcualtor designs. One person proposed that the HP 35s menu be changed to HP 17/42 like menus. There was a talk about whether Einstein would have used a calculator, and the speaker, Wlodek Mier-Jedrzejowicz, stated that Einstein's calcualtor would require symoblic algebra, compact tensor notation, and matrices that allows equations. Jean-Yves Avenard introduced a great program to handle implicit function graphing, the EDGE by Hyrdix. Jake Schwartz gave us his review of changes to HP calcualtors. Thumbs up for the big ENTER key, raised angled keys instead of two shifted functions above the key. Thumbs down: lack of accesibility of base functions, lack of overlays, several color schemes (i.e. 6S, 30S). Prizes ranged from the 14B, 32SII, 40g (39g with CAS) to many calcualtors from the 48 and 49 series. I won one of the 14B calculators and won a surprise auction to purchase a 41C. I have officially joined the club of 41 owners.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #20 Posted by sjthomas on 3 Oct 2007, 11:35 p.m., in response to message #19 by Eddie W. Shore Quote: I won one of the 14B calculators and won a surprise auction to purchase a 41C. I have officially joined the club of 41 owners. And your port cover will be in the mail on Thursday.

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #21 Posted by Eddie W. Shore on 5 Oct 2007, 12:31 a.m., in response to message #20 by sjthomas Thank you sjthomas! However, what would I do with it when it arrives?

Re: O.K. -- So, How Was It? Message #22 Posted by sjthomas on 5 Oct 2007, 7:09 p.m., in response to message #21 by Eddie W. Shore It plugs into that little hole on the left side of the calculator.

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