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50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #1 Posted by cfh on 22 Feb 2007, 11:39 a.m.

Ladies and Gentlemen --

Just recently received my 50g, and wanting to configure it in the same way as my 49g+.

Managed to update ROM to v92 on both.

Now here is the weird part, keeping me from doing proper work:

I can't transfer the EqnLib.lib, EqnData.lib nor PerTbl.lib - Conn4x "flashes" that the calculator is busy (only managed to read that as I took a screen dump!).

I _can_ delete variables on the calc, but not transfer those libraries. Help!

To make things worse - I transferred them to an SD card, but could _not_ install them! I stored them in port 0, 1, 2, warmstart and also HOME 229 ATTACH, but only con an error message.

So, nothing works?

Must say that updating ROM was not at all that easy as the "manuals" or "guides" said, the best help was on hpcalc.org.

1) Transfer via usb - why is hte transfer cancelled?

2) Attaching those libraries, step-by-step guide for a complete idioto (that's me)?

desperate cheers --

cfh, *weeps*

      
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #2 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 22 Feb 2007, 11:58 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by cfh

Hi cfh.
You'll have certainly read what HP states for updating the libraries:

Quote:
Equation Library: If you have the equation library installed on your calculator, you MUST update it with the new version of the equation library as the old version is NOT COMPATIBLE with the ROM 92 and can cause memory lost. To do so:

>>> on the calculator, press left shift FILES, select 2: FLASH (using up and down) press OK, select the 2 EQLIB files (EQLIB: Equation L226 and EQLIB: Equation L227) using the up and down keys and the Enter key to 'select' them (a number will appear in front of these files). Press NXT and then PURGE and ALL to erase the files.
>>> Use the connectivity kit card to download the files into the HOME directory. Then use the file manager to copy the files from home to the Port 2 (Flash) following the instructions in the user manual.
>>> Alternatively, you can copy the 2 files on a SD card and then copy them in Port 2 (Flash) directly using the file manager




In particular, be sure to purge the old libs before installing the new ones.
By the way, what is exactly the error message yoy get?
Hope this helps.
Best regards.
Giancarlo
P.S.: the link for the above quoting is:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3235173&swItem=ca-31429-4&prodNameId=3235174&swEnvOID=181&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=0

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #3 Posted by cfh on 22 Feb 2007, 12:07 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Hi, thank you for the answer.

But *sigh* still no solution.

1) How do I see I have the "right" Eqlib and Pertbl for latest ROM?

2) Is there a utility for installing libraries, as I can't just use STO or ATTACH...

I feel so stupid asking these questions that have so many answers just by googling - and still, nothing works!

/red-eyed cfh

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #4 Posted by cfh on 22 Feb 2007, 12:20 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Error on PC:

___________________________

The calculator is busy, please wait for it to complete the commands.

Yo may press CANCEL to stop the PC side of the connection but the calculator will continue on its own.

___________________________

Error on HP:

___________________________

ATTACH Error: Bad Argument Value

___________________________

and 227 (=library number) is left on stack.

Sigh, on my 49g+ I have 12-18 libraries installed (since 2 years or more) but now I can't install those Equation Libs or Periodic table on neither the 50 nor the 49. I am so (!) frustrated.

-- cfh

Edit: Why is the formatting so very Foobar?!

Edited: 22 Feb 2007, 12:28 p.m.

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #5 Posted by cfh on 22 Feb 2007, 12:34 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Giancarlo (Italy)

Hi again. No success.

Current state 50g:

Port 0: totally complete empty

Port 1: dito

Port 2: dito

Port 3: SD card full of libraries and backups from my old 49g+. However, please note, that the OLD Equation library and Periodic table have now been replaced on the SD, and purged on both calcs.

Basic question that drives me nutzkrazy: How do I attach libraries 226, 227 and 229?

I am not going to sleep until this is resolved. ;-D

--- cfh

      
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #6 Posted by cfh on 22 Feb 2007, 1:25 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by cfh

Have I solved the problem?

The Eqn Lib and Per Table are available under APPS. Is this it? Are those libraries "special" ones that can not be detected by eg LibMan? I downloaded the manual 887 pages, and on p 783:

Follow these steps for solving an equation using the Equation Library. 1. Press [APPS UPARROW ENTER EQLIB EQNLI] to start the Equation Library.

*sigh* Was that it? No hints that those libraries are "not as the other ones"... ?

cheers

--cfh

(Why is the text never displayed as I enter it in the Message: box when writing it? Good ole plain text rules)

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #7 Posted by Tim Wessman on 22 Feb 2007, 2:48 p.m.,
in response to message #6 by cfh

If I remeber right, libman only goes from a certain library number foreward. Otherwise you'd include all the built in libraries that conatin caluclator commands. The eq lib and the periodic table are in the "HP Only" library area and so won't be included.

It is simple to see if you have the latest. If it crashes, you don't!

TW

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #8 Posted by Jeff O. on 23 Feb 2007, 7:54 a.m.,
in response to message #6 by cfh

Quote:
Why is the text never displayed as I enter it in the Message: box when writing it?
I presume that you wanted this:

Follow these steps for solving an equation using the Equation Library. 1. Press [APPS UPARROW ENTER EQLIB EQNLI] to start the Equation Library.

to look like this:
Follow these steps for solving an equation using the Equation Library.
1. Press [APPS UPARROW ENTER EQLIB EQNLI] to start the Equation Library.
Instructions for doing so are detailed here.
      
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #9 Posted by Tim Wessman on 22 Feb 2007, 2:46 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by cfh

Idiots way to install libraries: (the only one I use)

Go into the filer, and move them into port 2. Reboot the calculator with an ON-C. All done

TW

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #10 Posted by cfh on 22 Feb 2007, 3:11 p.m.,
in response to message #9 by Tim Wessman

Quote:
Idiots way to install libraries: (the only one I use)

Go into the filer, and move them into port 2. Reboot the calculator with an ON-C. All done

TW


Guess I'll be quite comfortable with this explanation...

Also, the "low lib number" theorem seems reasonable. I just really expected those libs to show just like all the others... I was apparently wrong.

Another day with HP ballet, and lesson learned.

cheer!

---cfh

            
Re: 50g and 49g+ Library Transfer and Install
Message #11 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 22 Feb 2007, 3:46 p.m.,
in response to message #9 by Tim Wessman

Are you saying that you and I are idiots? ;-)

Also, if you've downloaded them to the calculator via wire or IrDA, be sure to move the library to a port instead of just copying it. Leaving a library object in home or its subdirectories can interfere with the memory recovery routine in case you answer "YES" to a "Try To Recover Memory?".

But if you used a MMC/SD card to transfer the library, then it's safe to leave a copy of it on the card.

Regards,
James


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