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28S - Sniped with 9 seconds! Message #1 Posted by Les Wright on 3 June 2006, 4:46 p.m. I just lost out on an excellent 28S with manuals. I set my max bid fairly high since I have become friendly with the seller and was keen to do business with her. But, after overpaying for that 42S last week, I was treading a little more conservatively this time. The sucker went for $137.50! Someone must really have wanted this baby--recent sales have been less than $100, and I was willing to go $130. The snipage surprised the heck out of me. My friend the seller is thrilled. I am a bit disappointed. What a crazy market. I can't figure it out.... ;) Now, I have a few minutes till I get sniped on a 41CX ;) Later, Les

Re: 28S - Sniped with 9 seconds! Message #2 Posted by Howard Owen on 3 June 2006, 6:04 p.m., in response to message #1 by Les Wright That is high for a 28S. I bought my first 28S on eBay for $50.00, and figured I paid more than the average. The modified auction environment on eBay definitely favors the seller. Sniping is one way to lessen the buyer's disadvantage. But it is obviously no guarantee against someone with too much money and not enough .. patience. Regards, Howard

Re: 28S - Sniped with 9 seconds! Message #3 Posted by Les Wright on 3 June 2006, 8:57 p.m., in response to message #2 by Howard Owen As a consolation, I did manage to snag my friend's 41CX + Advantage module and manuals for just over $230, including shipping. That I thought was not bad. But I am a little less enthused. I already own a CV, which I just had lovingly refurbished by Randy the Wizard of FixThatCalc.com. I was keener to get a totally different calculator rather than another in the 41 series. What a market. Some wild bidding on that 42S pushed the price to over $300, and this is weird since units in better cosmetic shape have recently gone for much less. As an aside, what is the safest adhesive to used to reset a loose face plate? Any ideas? Something tells me that CYA should not come close to the keys ;) Les

Re: 28S - Sniped with 9 seconds! Message #4 Posted by jyl on 3 June 2006, 10:56 p.m., in response to message #3 by Les Wright I may be looking for a 41CX so if you decide to sell it . . .

Re: 28S - Sniped with 9 seconds! Message #5 Posted by Les Wright on 4 June 2006, 9:40 p.m., in response to message #4 by jyl I am not familiar with the CX except thru emulators, so I may want to hang on to it for awhile. If it is in good shape, I will probably keep it and then try to unload my beloved CV, even though Randy of FixThatCalc has just restored it to like-new functionality and I am sort of in love with it again. I am so undecided! Some times I feel a little guiltily excessive in this calculator collecting thing. Like, who really needs more than one in HP in the same family, right? Even more, who needs more than one high end calculator? My little collection comprises 6 HPs and a TI83, plus a good PDA with emulators. My consumerism runs rampant! On the other hand, it is a lot cheaper than some other hobbies. I have a colleague who collects classic cars. If he complains to me again about how high is insurance bill is, I am going to hit him in the nose with one of those Nerf bats.... Les

Re: 28S - Sniped with 9 seconds! - New auction? Message #6 Posted by PeterP on 5 June 2006, 10:09 p.m., in response to message #2 by Howard Owen excuse my interruption - what is the new eBay auction environment? Thanks!

This could be interpreted as shill bidding Message #7 Posted by Mike on 3 June 2006, 11:45 p.m., in response to message #1 by Les Wright Quote: 9 seconds 9 seconds? I don't even begin to bid, till it's under that. . I won one of my best auctions with ZERO time left on the clock. Quote: My friend the seller is thrilled. I am a bit disappointed. If you set an unreasonable high bid, and were outbid, and the seller was your friend many could interpret that as helping your friend by shill bidding. I'm just saying... Edited: 3 June 2006, 11:47 p.m.

Re: This could be interpreted as shill bidding Message #8 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 3 June 2006, 11:59 p.m., in response to message #7 by Mike Quote: If you set an unreasonable high bid, and were outbid, and the seller was your friend many could interpret that as helping your friend by shill bidding. If the intention were to not actually buy the item should the unreasonably high bid win, I would indeed interpret that as shill bidding. If the intention is to actually buy the item, even though the bid was "unreasonably high", I don't see any problem. Regards, James

Re: This could be interpreted as shill bidding Message #9 Posted by Les Wright on 4 June 2006, 1:20 a.m., in response to message #8 by James M. Prange (Michigan) I wanted the item and up until the last 5 seconds I thought I had won it. I never told the seller what my maximum bid was, and was utterly flabbergasted I was outbid. Moreover, if I were partaking of illicit bidding, would I be so moronic as to disclose it in this very public forum? Sheesh....

Re: This could be interpreted as shill bidding Message #10 Posted by Mike on 4 June 2006, 1:36 a.m., in response to message #9 by Les Wright Quote: Moreover, if I were partaking of illicit bidding, would I be so moronic as to disclose it in this very public forum? One would think. But when you put little winkies (not a smilie but a winkie), after your comments.... I'm just sayin'... Edited: 4 June 2006, 1:37 a.m.

Re: This could be interpreted as shill bidding Message #11 Posted by Les Wright on 4 June 2006, 1:56 a.m., in response to message #10 by Mike Report me to eBay, then. If scatology were permitted in the Forum, I am at the point where I would refer to you by a certain term of coarse slang referring to one end of the gastrointestinal tract. I mean the one with the sphincter, not the lips. Goodnight!

Re: This could be interpreted as shill bidding Message #12 Posted by Walter B on 4 June 2006, 7:09 a.m., in response to message #7 by Mike It's recommended to *READ* before accusing. Les wrote: "I set my max bid fairly high since I have become friendly with the seller and was keen to do business with her. But, ... The sucker went for $137.50! ... My friend the seller is thrilled. I am a bit disappointed." So where's the problem?? I don't see a glimpse of "shill bidding". Please!

I didn't say there was Message #13 Posted by Mike on 4 June 2006, 8:50 a.m., in response to message #12 by Walter B I didn't say there "was" shill bidding. I said one could see it that way. I'm just sayin'... I don't believe for a minute that he actually was. BTW, to everyone else, sniping is the only way to get items without running up the bidding. No matter how much you bid (assuming it's a reasonable bid), if you bid early on something that is desireable, there is almost always someone who will say to themself, "If it's worth X to someone else, it's worth X + $2 to me. That always drives the price too high. Guaranteed! The only way early bidding ever pays off is on something that no one wants very badly. Edited: 4 June 2006, 9:06 a.m.

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