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Definitely the wrong place! Message #1 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 19 Apr 2006, 6:14 a.m. I've been a HP48GX user for some years - not a heavy keypuncher, but what I need for my daily job (quality of products). Now I bought an HP49G+ (from Samson - excellent service from those guys, as always) and I find myself, in 95% of the cases, to push the ENTER key in the upper left corner just above the number keys! (it means EEX key, or +/- key, or...) I didn't expect the "right" position could be so addicting, moreover for a light user... The HP49 position of the ENTER must be definitely wrong... ;) Cheers. Giancarlo

Re: Definitely the wrong place! Message #2 Posted by Thomas Radtke on 19 Apr 2006, 6:59 a.m., in response to message #1 by Giancarlo (Italy) Don't miss this discussion about the placement of the enter key and the binary operator keys: Position of ENTER (OpenRPN thread) You see, the right position is to the right, of course;). Thomas

Re: Definitely the wrong place! Message #3 Posted by Raymond Del Tondo on 19 Apr 2006, 7:28 p.m., in response to message #2 by Thomas Radtke Hi, > You see, the right position is to the right, of course;) > Not mandatory. And it seems most of the guys who like a vertical ENTER bar have missed at least one important point;-) Please see my posting in the OpenRPN project forum. IMHO the HP-41 keyboard layout is one of the most efficient layouts ever made, followed by the keyboard layouts of the HP-32S (not 32SII), HP-42S and the HP-48. I also like the Voyager series calcs, but they're not very ergonomic since they can't be operated with one hand as easily as the HP-41. Ok, this may also be semi-OT;-) Regards Raymond

Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #4 Posted by Matt Kernal (US) on 19 Apr 2006, 4:09 p.m., in response to message #1 by Giancarlo (Italy) Hi Giancarlo, I recently posted a message at comp.sys.48 that describes (using the Keyman+ library) how to easily reassign the EEX key (who uses it anyway?) to function as a second Enter key. You'll love it!! Here is the link. Matt

Re: Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #5 Posted by Garth Wilson on 19 Apr 2006, 5:21 p.m., in response to message #4 by Matt Kernal (US) > easily reassign the EEX key (who uses it anyway? anyone in engineering. I use it all the time. In fact, I thought it was kind of strange for the HP-41's default display to be FIX 4. I virtually always have mine set to ENG 3.

Re: Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #6 Posted by Matt Kernal (US) on 19 Apr 2006, 8:37 p.m., in response to message #5 by Garth Wilson Garth, you are correct. I'm famous for speaking (and writing) without being encumbered by the thought process :-) In the previously mentioned link (see Apr.13), I quoted Prof. Rautenberg's instructions on how to reassign the EEX key to function as the Enter key. The second half of the quote goes on to say how to then assign the small Enter key to act as the EEX key, essentially swapping the two keys locations. Howard's suggestion below is another good option. Matt

Re: Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #7 Posted by Giancarlo (Italy) on 19 Apr 2006, 5:44 p.m., in response to message #4 by Matt Kernal (US) Hi Matt. Even if I'm an engineer, I never use the EEX key (sorry Garth, but to explain what kind of engineer I've become would take too long and would a boring subject for the forum ;) ). So I think I'm gonna give Keyman+ a try. Thank you for your suggestion. Cheers. Giancarlo

Re: Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #8 Posted by Howard Owen on 19 Apr 2006, 5:57 p.m., in response to message #7 by Giancarlo (Italy) Keyman+ is one of the most useful apps for the 4[89]+ going! Assigning double-clicks and long presses extends the calculator's keyboard in extremely useful ways. Want ENTER on EEX but need the functtion too? Assign EEX to the long press and make ENTER the short press. Brilliant!

Re: Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #9 Posted by Hugh Evans on 20 Apr 2006, 1:37 a.m., in response to message #8 by Howard Owen To anyone using keyman+ how do you like being able to use double clicks and long holds? I've been planning similar capabilities for OpenRPN machines, especially as an alternative to shift keys.

Re: Reassign the EEX key to operate as Enter Message #10 Posted by Thomas Okken on 20 Apr 2006, 8:44 a.m., in response to message #9 by Hugh Evans I'm not a 49g+ user, but as an RSI sufferer, my $0.02 is that long holds (and probably also double-clicks) should never be the *only* way to execute any instruction, as they are far more stressful on the tendons than a normal key-press. - Thomas

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