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Voyager marked Brazil Message #1 Posted by Pat on 3 Feb 2007, 1:37 p.m. Can anybody tell me when HP started shipping Voyager products from Brazil. Specifically HP 12c. How does it compare in quality to the USA made products.

Re: Voyager marked Brazil Message #2 Posted by bill platt on 3 Feb 2007, 5:32 p.m., in response to message #1 by Pat My Brazilian 12c is superbly constructed.

Re: Voyager marked Brazil Message #3 Posted by Les Wright on 3 Feb 2007, 9:40 p.m., in response to message #1 by Pat I have a 1989 Brazil made 11C. Even though it was a cosmetic train wreck when I got it (I just removed the bezel to get some dust out that was driving me nuts), it seems to work fine. I am assuming it must have been robustly made if it still works--it looks like it took a beating in the hands of previous owners. Edited: 3 Feb 2007, 9:41 p.m.

Re: Voyager marked Brazil Message #4 Posted by allen on 4 Feb 2007, 8:00 a.m., in response to message #1 by Pat Here are the SN's I have: 12c 11c 15c 2201A 2146A 2241A 2835A 2208A 2248A 3150B 2505A 2437A 3209B 2520A 2507A 3242B 2528A 2529A 3339S 2536A 2550A 2723A So I would venture a guess that the 12c brazilian was roughly late 1989 to late 1992. I have two other Malaysian 12C's and a Chinese model. IMHO, I would say the order of quality decreased with each successive production run over time. The best being American, then Brazil, Singapore, Malaysia, then lastly, the cheap communist junk. You can guess which one falls below my quality threshold. : ) (keep in mind I am not EXACTLY sure of that order.. only inferring from the data.) Hope this hepls, Regards!! other neat pics here: Edited: 4 Feb 2007, 8:15 a.m.

Re: Brazilizan HP's Message #5 Posted by Randy on 4 Feb 2007, 8:45 a.m., in response to message #1 by Pat Allen, your sample isn't large enough... from serial numbers I've recorded, Brazilian Voyagers date back to 1983 with 2343B the earliest I have on record. IMO, although there were minor differences, units built in Brazil were equivalent to the USA quality-wise. Edited: 4 Feb 2007, 8:53 a.m.

Re: Brazilizan HP's Message #6 Posted by Julián Miranda (Spain) on 4 Feb 2007, 12:52 p.m., in response to message #5 by Randy I have a 11C 2323B. O.T. I decided to celebrate 12C 20 years buying one. I looked at eBay and found one that seemed unused, from someone in Corvallis. I bought it and when I got it I saw it was made in Brazil.

Re: Voyager marked Brazil Message #7 Posted by Vieira, L. C. (Brazil) on 5 Feb 2007, 7:22 a.m., in response to message #1 by Pat Hi; I have some Brazilian Voyagers, and some of them are actually good (working aspect) when compared to ones from other origins. The fact is that the HP11C, HP12C and HP15C were the only Voyagers (officially) produced and commercialized in Brazil. Neither the HP10C nor the HP16C were commercialized here. I have one HP10C and three HP16C, and they are all from USA. About production details and dates: have no clue, though... Others have already post and mentioned dates that may give a better location in time. My 2˘... maybe only 1˘. Luiz (Brazil) Edited: 5 Feb 2007, 4:16 p.m.

Re: Voyager marked Brazil Message #8 Posted by rkodaira on 8 Feb 2007, 12:17 p.m., in response to message #7 by Vieira, L. C. (Brazil) I bought my HP12C in 1987 made here in Brazil (20 years old !!) and it is like a new one (except for some dust inside the screen and 2 batteries changes) working very well (all keys are firms). I have also a HP15C working perfectly.

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