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Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #1 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 7 Mar 2006, 8:52 a.m.

Hi all,

A month has elapsed, and March, 7th is a pretty good day for another S&SMC, this time S&SMC#14, Cooking Conjectures !

Preamble

    Number Theory is a fascinating branch of Mathematics, where we mostly deal with such basic, fundamental entities as integer numbers. Despite the apparent simplicity, experience shows that it's actually very easy to make integer-related conjectures that seem extremely simple on the outside, yet are nearly intractable. A good example would be the infamous Fermat Last Theorem (FLT), which remained a conjecture for several centuries despite the strongest, most strenuous attempts at proving it.

    FLT was at long last proved, thus leaving its conjecture status (despite its name) to actually become a theorem proper, but many other important conjectures are still awaiting for either some clever demonstration, which will break new barriers and advance knowledge, or else a counterexample which proves them false, which doesn't usually advance knowledge an inch but at least gives peace of mind and conclusively stops further costly, time-wasting attempts to try and prove them. When such a counterexample is found, we say that the conjecture is cooked, i.e., unsound, false. For this very S&SMC#14, put on your chef's hat and let's try and cook some nice conjectures for dinner !

The Challenge

    For each of these three plausible conjectures, you must find a cook, i.e., the lowest counterexample that falsifies them. In all cases you are done if you manage to find but one counterexample, within the stated ranges. Optimizing for maximum speed will be first priority, then for program size and simplicity. These are the conjectures to cook:

Conjecture 1: Well-done

    Some famous mathematician of old noted the fact that, apparently, you could find any number of integer solutions to the equations:
             a2 + b2 = c2       (e.g.: 32 + 42 = 52)
             a3 + b3 + c3 = d3  (e.g.: 33 + 43 + 53 = 63)
             ...
    
    where the number of terms added up is the same as the power, but he was able to prove that there were no non-trivial integer solutions to:
             a3 + b3 = c3
    
    where the number of terms added up was less than the power. He thus conjectured that such equations as:
             a4 + b4 + c4 = d4
             a5 + b5 + c5 + d5 = e5
             ...
    
    etc., would also have no non-trivial solutions at all. Now, you must prove him wrong by finding a counterexample for the 5th-power case, i.e., write a program that finds one solution of:
    
             a5 + b5 + c5 + d5 = e5
    
    for non-zero, positive integer values a, b, c, d, e less than 150. Such a solution eluded mathematicians for two centuries till it was found in 1966 using tremendous computing power for the time. Just duplicate the feat using your small HP handheld calculator and your programming ingenuity.

Conjecture 2: Medium

    Another less well-known mathematician stated the following conjecture:
       "Every positive integer greater than 5 is the sum of a prime and a power"
    
    For instance:
        ...
        1234 = 991 +  35
        1235 =  79 + 342
        1236 =  11 + 352
        1237 = 337 + 302
        1238 =  13 + 352
        ...
    
    etc. You must find the smallest counterexample N which cannot be expressed as the sum of a prime and a power, limiting your search to the range from N = 6 to 2000. Of course the prime numbers are 2,3,5,... (so 1 is not considered to be a prime), and the powers are 11 = 1, 22 = 4, 23 = 8, 32 = 9, 24= 16, ..., (so 0 is not considered to be a power for the purposes of decomposition into the sum of a prime and a power, but 1 is).

Conjecture 3: Rare

    Finally, a more recent and amusing conjecture is that all positive integer numbers can be made into a palindromic number (i.e., one which reads the same from right or from left, such as 123474321) by reversing their digits and adding the result to the original number, then repeating these steps until you get a palindromic number. For instance, 78 gets palindromic in 4 cycles:
          cycle 1:    78 +   87 =  165
          cycle 2:   165 +  561 =  726
          cycle 3:   726 +  627 = 1353
          cycle 4:  1353 + 3531 = 4884, palindromic
    
    You must find the smallest alleged counterexample N, for N up to 200, which fails to produce a palindromic result after M cycles, where M should go up to 200 cycles minimum, preferably up to 1000 cycles. Any number N which fails to produce a palindromic result after M cycles, for suitably large M (say 200, 500, or 1000) will be considered a counterexample for the purposes of this challenge.

    Your program must ask for the maximum number of cycles to perform, M, and must output any and all values of N up to 200 which do not produce a palindromic result. Be aware that the numbers involved will get very big very soon. Your program must cater for this, without ever producing overflow or losing significant digits.

Caveat Emptor

    The usual caveats apply, namely:

    1. Do not post just solutions, actual code is mandatory. If you won't post code to accompany your alleged solutions at the time of posting them, then do not post the solutions, period. Wait till you can post both.

    2. Code must be for an HP calculator preferably, but other vintage handhelds are acceptable as well. Posting code written in Visual Basic, Java, FORTRAN, or any other PC language will be considered unpolite and disrespectful.

    3. Try to achieve a proper balance between you manually doing most of the work and having a "PRINT (solution)" program which does nothing of interest, and you contributing no enlightening ideas of your own and having instead a dumb, brute-force program which delivers the goods but takes ages to run. The ideal is to use some clever ingenuity to significantly speed up the program while still letting it do the hard work as it should. Remember the old computerese proverb:

      "The Program was made for man, not man for the Program"

      Anyway, you'll need some reasonable algorithmic and programming ingenuity if you don't want to kill your batteries in one go.

I'll post my own original solutions next Monday, which will be three simple programs 7-, 8-, and 9-lines long for the HP-71B. Though far from being the last word in state-of-the-art programming, they're didactically simple and they're fast and they get the work done reasonably quickly. I'll post background and relevant comments as well.

Let's see yours.

Best regards from V.

      
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #2 Posted by GE on 8 Mar 2006, 9:45 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

</lurk mode> Regarding challenge 3, I "know" that the answer is 196. <lurk mode> very much appreciating your challenges (without ever submitting code...)

      
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #3 Posted by Bram on 9 Mar 2006, 6:35 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Hi Valentin,

Nice challenges and nicely formulated. I immediately started thinking about them, but, unpleasantly enough, I can't think of any other solution than to scan possibilities, which is disapproved in the first place. So for the moment no contributions from my side.
Still, as I was anxious to know the answer, I did write a brute-force program for my 32SII for the first challenge to see how fast it would run. Well, fast enough, but the amount of computations will take a few days to complete, despite the fact that I don't examine combinations that I already have computed but in different order.
Obviously this #14 is not my cup of tea, but I like reading it and I'm looking forward to your approaches. As always.

groeten,
Bram

            
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #4 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 9 Mar 2006, 7:24 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by Bram

Hi, Bram:

Bram posted:

"Obviously this #14 is not my cup of tea, but I like reading it and I'm looking forward to your approaches. As always."

    Thanks for your interest and kind words but don't despair so soon. Even if Conjecture 1 would seem hard, it actually isn't that much, and you still have Conjectures 2 & 3 which are easier to cook.

    However, the HP32SII is probably not the ideal calc for this #14, because of its extremely limited amount of RAM. After you've entered some clever programming you'll be left with too few bytes for necessary variables, and even the program itself can't be much more refined than a pure brute-force search in that little RAM.

    If you can, I suggest you try instead one of these models: HP41CV/CX, HP42S, HP-71B, HP48/49 series. Even if you don't have any of these models available, you can always get Emu71 or other free emulators from the net, and try your might with that.

    Don't give up, I know you can succeed ! :-) You might also consider that if all interested people simply get the lazy bug and decide to just wait and see whatever solutions I will eventually post, I might consider the response a total failure and stop altogether posting any further challenges ... in other words, if I do work hard to produce them in the first place, then interested people are expected to work as well trying to solve them for good, else no deal.

    This isn't intended as a showcase of my abilities but an interaction between all of us who care for this, where we'll get to see some fun math and interesting programming techniques for a variety of models, and hopefully enjoy it all and learn something valuable in the process.

Best regards from V.

            
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #5 Posted by Maximilian Hohmann on 9 Mar 2006, 7:53 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by Bram

Hello!

Thank you for this nice challenge, really something worth thinking about whike driving to work and back...

Quote:
Bram: Nice challenges and nicely formulated. I immediately started thinking about them, but, unpleasantly enough, I can't think of any other solution than to scan possibilities, which is disapproved in the first place. So for the moment no contributions from my side.

The same for me, I'm afraid. Nevertheless (I'm an engineer, not a mathematician ;-) ), I tried a brute force "attack" on challenge no.1 with a little C-programme on my PowerBook (I wish I had this Casio pocket calculator with "C" programming language, that would make my attempt a valid entry...) and it took 18 seconds (*) to find the result(s) (**). Which means: definitely no answer within my remaining lifetime on any vintage programmable calculator!

The only alternatives that come to mind would be an iterative approach or an optimisation (simplex method?) approach, but both would not fit into any of my programmable calculators.
Looking forward to see the real smart solutions!

Greetings, Max

(*) and 27 Minutes, if searching up to 300 instead of 150 ... which probably tranlates to a millenium on the hp-41
(**) my very first real brute-brute-brute approach would have taken several hours, so at least some thinking had to go into it.
                  
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #6 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 9 Mar 2006, 8:29 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Maximilian Hohmann

Hi, Maximilian:

Maximilian posted:

"Thank you for this nice challenge, really something worth thinking about whike driving to work and back... "

    You're welcome, glad you find it interesting.

"I tried a brute force "attack" on challenge no.1 [...] and it took 18 seconds [...] which means: definitely no answer within my remaining lifetime on any vintage programmable calculator!"

    Believe me, it's not as hard as it seems. Obviously launching a pure brute-force search with the equivalent of four or five for-next loops is certain to take ages, as I mentioned in my original posting. But some clever refinements plus careful reading of the given conditions can make all the difference in the world, to the point where a vintage handheld, and certainly such models as the modern 48/49 series, can solve it in a few hours at most, if not mere minutes.

"Looking forward to see the real smart solutions! "

    I think you're overestimating the real difficulty. That's usually the way with my challenges: most people find them extremely difficult at first, till they realize that they're actually quite manageable, even easy given the right approach. Else, I wouldn't post them, it's no fun to ask solutions to challenges that would forcibly require the use of a fast, full-fledged computer.

Go ahead and if you don't manage to cope with Conjecture 1, try Conjectures 2 & 3 instead, they're probably easier (that's why I labelled them "Well-done" (hardest), "Medimum" (so-so hard) and "Rare" (easiest) :-)

Thanks for your interest and best regards from V.

                  
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #7 Posted by . on 9 Mar 2006, 8:34 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Maximilian Hohmann

Hi,

Any chance that you could put your C solution online? I'd be happy to port it to the HP49 series and make it a valid entry (yes, you can use C with these, and the result is very fast).

                        
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #8 Posted by Maximilian Hohmann on 9 Mar 2006, 8:43 a.m.,
in response to message #7 by .

Hi!

Quote:
Any chance that you could put your C solution online? I'd be happy to port it to the HP49 series and make it a valid entry (yes, you can use C with these, and the result is very fast).


I have uploaded it here: http://www.bombie.de/tmp/hochfuenf.c

Greetings, Max
                              
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #9 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 9 Mar 2006, 11:42 a.m.,
in response to message #8 by Maximilian Hohmann

Hi Max,

a PB-2000C version is in your mailbox.

Marcus

                  
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #10 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 11 Mar 2006, 9:05 a.m.,
in response to message #5 by Maximilian Hohmann

Hi Max & Valentin,

Quote:
(I wish I had this Casio pocket calculator with "C" programming language, that would make my attempt a valid entry...) and it took 18 seconds (*) to find the result(s) (**)

I *do* have a PB-2000C and I was able to drain a set of expensive batteries with the program without ever coming near a solution...

So I tried to do something about it and I shortened the loops as good as I could. Here is the program:

/* 
  Short&Sweet Math Challenges No.14 http://www.hpmuseum.org/

Version for Casio PB-2000C

*/

/* IMIN: starting point */ #define IMIN 150

/* IMAX: highest number to search */ #define IMAX 150

/* There is no command line in Casio C */ main() { double a5 = 0.0; double b5 = 0.0; double c5 = 0.0; double d5 = 0.0; double e5 = 0.0; double sum = 0.0; double sumc = 0.0; double sumd = 0.0; double diff = 0.0; double z = 0.0; double vsmall = 1.0E-10; int imin = 0; int imax = 0; int i = 0; int ia = 0; int ib = 0; int ic = 0; int id = 0; int ie = 0; double *powtab = NULL; int lpowtab = 0; int output = 0;

/* get the parameters */ printf( "imin=" ); scanf( "%d", &imin ); if ( imin == 0 ) imin = IMIN;

printf( "imax=" ); scanf( "%d", &imax ); if ( imax == 0 ) imax = IMAX;

printf( "output=" ); scanf( "%d", &output );

printf("SSMC #14.1: Searching up to %d\n", imax);

/* power table to save multiplictions */ lpowtab = imax + 1; powtab = (double *) malloc(lpowtab * sizeof(powtab[0]));

if (powtab == NULL) { printf("*** ERROR ***\nMemory allocation failed.\n"); return; }

for (i = 1 ; i < imin ; i++) { z = (double) i; powtab[i] = z * z * z * z * z; }

/* outermost loop for "e" */ for (ie = imin ; ie <= imax ; ie++) { z = (double) ie; e5 = powtab[ie] = z * z * z * z * z; if (output) { clrscr(); } printf("e=%-4d e^5=%-15.0f\n", ie, e5);

/* compute lower bound of "d" loop */ z = e5 - 3 * powtab[ie-1]; id = z <= 2 ? 1 : (int) pow( z, 0.2 ); if (output) { gotoxy(12,1); printf("%-3d",id); } for (; id < ie; id++) { d5 = powtab[id]; if (output) { gotoxy(12,1); printf("%-3d",id); gotoxy(16,1); printf("%-15.0f",d5); }

/* compute lower bound of "c" loop */ z = e5 - 3 * d5; ic = z <= 2 ? 1 : (int) pow( z, 0.2 ); if (output) { gotoxy(0,1); printf(" %-3d",ic); } for (; ic <= id; ic++) { c5 = powtab[ic]; sumc = d5 + c5; if (output) { gotoxy(8,1); printf("%-3d",ic); gotoxy(16,1); printf("%-15.0f",sumc); } /* check if c^5 + d^5 exeeds e^5 */ if ( sumc > e5 ) break;

/* compute lower bound of "b" loop */ z = e5 - d5 - 2 * c5; ib = z <= 2 ? 1 : (int) pow( z, 0.2 ); if (output) { gotoxy(0,1); printf(" %-3d",ib); }

for (; ib <= ic; ib++) { b5 = powtab[ib]; sumd = sumc + b5; if (output) { gotoxy(4,1); printf("%-3d",ib); gotoxy(16,1); printf("%-15.0f",sumd); } /* check if b^5 + c^5 + d^5 exeeds e^5 */ if ( sumd > e5 ) break;

/* compute lower bound of "a" loop */ z = e5 - sumd; ia = z <= 2 ? 1 : (int) pow( z, 0.2 ); if (output) { gotoxy(0,1); printf("%-3d",ia); } for (; ia <= ib; ia++) { a5 = powtab[ia]; sum = sumd + a5; diff = sum - e5;

if (-vsmall < diff && diff < vsmall) { if (output) clrscr(); printf("SOLUTION: a=%4d b=%4d c=%4d\n d=%4d e=%4d\n", ia, ib, ic, id, ie); beep(1); if (output) getchar(); } else if ( sum > e5 ) { /* a^5 + b^5 + c^5 + d^5 exeeds e^5 */ break; } else { if (output) { gotoxy(0,1); printf("%-3d",ia); gotoxy(16,1); printf("%-15.0f",sum); } } } } } } }

free(powtab); powtab = NULL;

printf("\nFinished\n"); }

I'm relucant to post the result, because I've only tested the program above with time consuming screen output enabled and even after giving it a whole night it didn't reach more than e=70. At the time of this writing, the software is running again, this time with a restricted set of values for e to check ;-). I hope that it will come to a solution before Sunday.

To provide a solution for an HP calculator of old, I ported it back to DOS Borland C and let it run on my venerable HP 200lx. The machine seems to be much faster than the Casio, having reached e=65 after about 15 or 20 minutes. The Casio runs interpreted code (just like BASIC) while the HP runs a compiled DOS program.

I strongly believe that the search algorithm must be improved greatly to have a chance on a slow calculator.

Marcus

                        
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #11 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 11 Mar 2006, 6:25 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by Marcus von Cube, Germany

After a few hours of hard computational work, the HP 200lx was finally able to deliver:

27^5+84^5+110^5+133^5=144^5

My poor Casio has at least arrived at showing the same result after being told to start with e=144...

      
Re: S&SMC#14 Part 3 - BASIC solution
Message #12 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 9 Mar 2006, 8:23 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Hi Valentin,

this time I had some spare time to try to solve at least one of your challenges. Here is a BASIC program for the third conjecture.

The program

(Indentation and empty lines added later in the listing)

100 REM S&SMC 14, Problem 3 110 INPUT "Number of cycles=";NC 120 INPUT "From=";N1,"To=";N2 130 DIM D(1,199):REM digits

140 FOR N=N1 TO N2 160 REM Split N in digits 170 ID=0:L=0 180 T=N 190 D(ID,L)=T-10*INT(T/10) 200 T=INT(T/10) 210 L=L+1 220 IF T<>0 THEN 190 225 L=L-1

230 REM Cycle loop 240 FOR C=1 TO NC 250 GOSUB 1000:REM display 260 REM Add and Test 270 F=-1:CY=0

280 FOR I=0 TO L 290 D1=D(ID,I):D2=D(ID,L-I) 300 F=F AND (D1=D2) 310 IF F AND (I>=L-I)THEN I=L:C=NC:GOTO 350:REM Palindromic 320 S=D1+D2+CY:CY=0 330 IF S>9 THEN S=S-10:CY=1 340 D(1-ID,I)=S 350 NEXT I

360 ID=1-ID:REM swap source&dest 365 IF CY=1 THEN L=L+1:D(ID,L)=1 370 NEXT C

380 IF F=0 THEN 410 390 NEXT N 400 END

1000 REM display 1005 PRINT N;C;":"; 1010 FOR II=0 TO L 1020 PRINT CHR$(48+D(ID,II)); 1030 NEXT II 1040 PRINT 1050 RETURN

I wrote the program on a TI-74 with bare 8K RAM. The BASIC used here is pretty standard and I assume that a HP-71 could run the same software with minor changes (: -> @).

How is it done?

I didn't make the attempt to handle the sums as integers or real numbers because the number of digits available (10 to 14) wouldn't be enough. Splitting an array of 10 digit numbers in individual digits seemed to be too time consuming. So I traded memory for speed in this first attempt. Each individual digit is stored as a number in an array.

The array is defined with DIM D(1,199). TI-Basic does not support single precision or integer variables so this is a real waste of memory. The array caters for two numbers with up to 200 digits. A posible modification could be to use two character strings (with a maximum length of 255 in most BASICs) or to PEEK/POKE directly into memory.

The first dimension is used to switch between the source and the destination number. There is only one source number, read from left to right for the first summand and from right to left for the second. The other number is the sum. After each cycle, the roles are changed (see line 360).

While adding, two things happen. A comparison is made between the two digits added (line 300) and the result of the comparison is ANDed into a flag (F). If the flag is still set after half of the digits are processed, the number is a palindrome and the rest of the two inner loops are skipped (line 310.)

Secondly, a carry (CY) is set whenever the sum is greater than 9. This carry is than added in the next step of the digit loop (lines 320-340.)

The results

The program took about half an hour to find the result 196 with 200 cycles. The size of the array should be enough for more than 400 cycles (the longest number I got has 88 digits). The following output was created with a modified version of the software that can PRINT to a datafile on the PC (via the PC interface).

 1  1 :1
 2  1 :2
 3  1 :3
 4  1 :4
 5  1 :5
 6  1 :6
 7  1 :7
 8  1 :8
 9  1 :9
 10  1 :10
 10  2 :11
 11  1 :11
 12  1 :12
 12  2 :33
 13  1 :13
 13  2 :44
 14  1 :14
 14  2 :55
 15  1 :15
 15  2 :66
 16  1 :16
 16  2 :77
 17  1 :17
 17  2 :88
 18  1 :18
 18  2 :99
 19  1 :19
 19  2 :110
 19  3 :121
 20  1 :20
 20  2 :22
 21  1 :21
 21  2 :33
 22  1 :22
 23  1 :23
 23  2 :55
 24  1 :24
 24  2 :66
 25  1 :25
 25  2 :77
 26  1 :26
 26  2 :88
 27  1 :27
 27  2 :99
 28  1 :28
 28  2 :110
 28  3 :121
 29  1 :29
 29  2 :121
 30  1 :30
 30  2 :33
 31  1 :31
 31  2 :44
 32  1 :32
 32  2 :55
 33  1 :33
 34  1 :34
 34  2 :77
 35  1 :35
 35  2 :88
 36  1 :36
 36  2 :99
 37  1 :37
 37  2 :110
 37  3 :121
 38  1 :38
 38  2 :121
 39  1 :39
 39  2 :132
 39  3 :363
 40  1 :40
 40  2 :44
 41  1 :41
 41  2 :55
 42  1 :42
 42  2 :66
 43  1 :43
 43  2 :77
 44  1 :44
 45  1 :45
 45  2 :99
 46  1 :46
 46  2 :110
 46  3 :121
 47  1 :47
 47  2 :121
 48  1 :48
 48  2 :132
 48  3 :363
 49  1 :49
 49  2 :143
 49  3 :484
 50  1 :50
 50  2 :55
 51  1 :51
 51  2 :66
 52  1 :52
 52  2 :77
 53  1 :53
 53  2 :88
 54  1 :54
 54  2 :99
 55  1 :55
 56  1 :56
 56  2 :121
 57  1 :57
 57  2 :132
 57  3 :363
 58  1 :58
 58  2 :143
 58  3 :484
 59  1 :59
 59  2 :154
 59  3 :605
 59  4 :1111
 60  1 :60
 60  2 :66
 61  1 :61
 61  2 :77
 62  1 :62
 62  2 :88
 63  1 :63
 63  2 :99
 64  1 :64
 64  2 :110
 64  3 :121
 65  1 :65
 65  2 :121
 66  1 :66
 67  1 :67
 67  2 :143
 67  3 :484
 68  1 :68
 68  2 :154
 68  3 :605
 68  4 :1111
 69  1 :69
 69  2 :165
 69  3 :726
 69  4 :1353
 69  5 :4884
 70  1 :70
 70  2 :77
 71  1 :71
 71  2 :88
 72  1 :72
 72  2 :99
 73  1 :73
 73  2 :110
 73  3 :121
 74  1 :74
 74  2 :121
 75  1 :75
 75  2 :132
 75  3 :363
 76  1 :76
 76  2 :143
 76  3 :484
 77  1 :77
 78  1 :78
 78  2 :165
 78  3 :726
 78  4 :1353
 78  5 :4884
 79  1 :79
 79  2 :176
 79  3 :847
 79  4 :1595
 79  5 :7546
 79  6 :14003
 79  7 :44044
 80  1 :80
 80  2 :88
 81  1 :81
 81  2 :99
 82  1 :82
 82  2 :110
 82  3 :121
 83  1 :83
 83  2 :121
 84  1 :84
 84  2 :132
 84  3 :363
 85  1 :85
 85  2 :143
 85  3 :484
 86  1 :86
 86  2 :154
 86  3 :605
 86  4 :1111
 87  1 :87
 87  2 :165
 87  3 :726
 87  4 :1353
 87  5 :4884
 88  1 :88
 89  1 :89
 89  2 :187
 89  3 :968
 89  4 :1837
 89  5 :9218
 89  6 :17347
 89  7 :91718
 89  8 :173437
 89  9 :907808
 89  10 :1716517
 89  11 :8872688
 89  12 :17735476
 89  13 :85189247
 89  14 :159487405
 89  15 :664272356
 89  16 :1317544822
 89  17 :3602001953
 89  18 :7193004016
 89  19 :13297007933
 89  20 :47267087164
 89  21 :93445163438
 89  22 :176881317877
 89  23 :955594506548
 89  24 :1801200002107
 89  25 :8813200023188
 90  1 :90
 90  2 :99
 91  1 :91
 91  2 :110
 91  3 :121
 92  1 :92
 92  2 :121
 93  1 :93
 93  2 :132
 93  3 :363
 94  1 :94
 94  2 :143
 94  3 :484
 95  1 :95
 95  2 :154
 95  3 :605
 95  4 :1111
 96  1 :96
 96  2 :165
 96  3 :726
 96  4 :1353
 96  5 :4884
 97  1 :97
 97  2 :176
 97  3 :847
 97  4 :1595
 97  5 :7546
 97  6 :14003
 97  7 :44044
 98  1 :98
 98  2 :187
 98  3 :968
 98  4 :1837
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Edited: 9 Mar 2006, 8:24 a.m.

      
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #13 Posted by Eamonn on 10 Mar 2006, 12:05 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Hi Valentin,

Thanks you for another S&SMC. I always find them fun to try, but lately it's been an even tougher challenge to find time to work on them.

I wrote a program in HP-71B Basic to find a solution for the first part of the challenge. I was going to write it in Sharp Basic, but the Sharp handhelds I have only support 10 significant digits and the program needs to be able to handle integers with 11 digits.

I don't have an actual HP-71B, so I used emu71. This was the first time I used this emulator and I agree that it is a great piece of software.

Here is my program. There are some small optimizations to reduce the number of cases that are tested (including starting the outer loop at 150 and working backward - thanks for the hint). However, it still took about 10 minutes to find the answer, even when running with emu71.

10 FOR E=150 TO 5 STEP -1 @ E5=E^5 @ FOR D=E-1 TO 4 STEP -1 @ D5=D^5 @ C1=INT ((E5-D5)^.2)
15 IF C1>D THEN D=0 @ GOTO 70
20 FOR C=C1 TO 3 STEP -1 @ C5=C^5 @ B1=INT((E5-D5-C5)^.2) @ IF B1>C THEN C=0 @ GOTO 60
30 FOR B=B1 TO 2 STEP -1 @ B5=B^5 @ A=INT((E5-D5-C5-B5)^.2) @ IF A>B THEN B=0 @ GOTO 50
40 IF A^5+B5+C5+D5=E5 THEN 100
50 NEXT B
60 NEXT C
70 NEXT D
80 NEXT E
90 STOP
100 PRINT A;" ";B;" ";C;" ";D
110 PRINT E

It finds the solution 27^5 + 84^5 + 110^5 + 133^5 = 144^5.

I'll see if I can make time to try the other parts of the challenge this weekend.

Best Regards,

Eamonn

      
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #14 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 12 Mar 2006, 1:28 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Hello Valentin,

Here is my attempt to cook conjecture #1. Ok, it's in QBASIC, but the conversion to HP-71B basic should be straightfoward. So, not to be completely off the rules, I tested it on the HP-200LX. After 26 minutes and 15 seconds the answer was found:

144 133 110 84 27

The program could be ported to the HP-42S but it would take even longer to run. Perhaps the 49G+ gets the same result in less than 10 minutes. Though the algorithm finds the right answer, it may still have flaws, which everybody is welcome to point me out. Of course, it is easier when we know the answer. If I hadn't seen Eamonn's and other people's solutions, I might not have even tried. Thanks all of you!

As always, I am looking forward to your solutions.

5 CLS 10 DEFDBL A-H, O-Z 15 DEFINT I-N 25 DIM Q(150) 30 FOR I = 2 TO 150 35 T = I * I 40 Q(I) = T * T * I 45 NEXT 50 FOR I = 150 TO 6 STEP -1 55 E5 = Q(I) 60 LOCATE 1, 1: PRINT I 65 FOR J = I - 1 TO 5 STEP -1 80 FOR K = J - 1 TO 4 STEP -1 85 FOR L = K - 1 TO 3 STEP -1 87 IF Q(J) + Q(K) > E5 THEN 110 90 FOR M = L - 1 TO 2 STEP -1 91 IF Q(J) + Q(K) + Q(L) > E5 THEN 105 92 S = Q(J) + Q(K) + Q(L) + Q(M) 94 IF S < E5 THEN 110 98 IF S = E5 THEN 130 100 NEXT M 105 NEXT L 110 NEXT K 115 NEXT J 120 NEXT I 130 CLS: PRINT I, J; K; L; M

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Edited to include Emu71 version:

25 STD @ DIM Q(150) 30 FOR I=2 TO 150 @ Q(I)=I^5 @ NEXT I 50 FOR I=150 TO 6 STEP -1 55 E5=Q(I) @ DISP I 65 FOR J=I-1 TO 5 STEP -1 80 FOR K=J-1 TO 4 STEP -1 85 FOR L=K-1 TO 3 STEP -1 87 IF Q(J)+Q(K)>E5 THEN 110 90 FOR M=L-1 TO 2 STEP -1 91 IF Q(J)+Q(K)+Q(L)>E5 THEN 105 92 S=Q(J)+Q(K)+Q(L)+Q(M) 94 IF S<E5 THEN 110 ELSE IF S=E5 THEN 130 100 NEXT M 105 NEXT L 110 NEXT K 115 NEXT J 120 NEXT I 130 PRINT I,J;K;L;M

Since this takes roughly one hour to find the answer (Emu71 @ 500MHz), I think my previous estimation of running time on the 49G+ is wrong: I'd say less than 10 hours instead of less than 10 minutes :-(

Edited: 12 Mar 2006, 4:20 p.m.

            
A question about conjecture #1
Message #15 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 12 Mar 2006, 5:36 p.m.,
in response to message #14 by Gerson W. Barbosa

In order to test the algorithm, I made a slight modification in the QBasic program. So beginning with 580, the following results were obtained in about 5 minutes (Pentium III @ 500 MHz, QBX - Compiled QBASIC):

576 532 440 336 108 432 399 330 252 81 288 266 220 168 54 144 133 110 84 27

Exactly as expected, since (n*a)^5+(n*b)^5+(n*c)^5+(n*d)^5=(n*e)^5. Now, a question arises: besides {133, 110, 84, 24} and their multiples, are there any other four-number sets (and their multiples) that 'cook' the conjecture? Or is this set unique?

------------------------------------

I've just found the answer to this question. According to this paper, NEW RESULTS IN EQUAL SUMS OF LIKE POWERS, the set is unique. Perhaps I should attend to an introductory course on Number Theory :-)

Edited: 12 Mar 2006, 6:22 p.m.

                  
Re: A question about conjecture #1
Message #16 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 15 Mar 2006, 8:57 p.m.,
in response to message #15 by Gerson W. Barbosa

I think I had better stick to my first idea:

853595 = 852825 + 289695 + 31835 + 555 was found by J. Frye (J.-C. Meyrignac, pers. comm., Sep. 9, 2004):

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DiophantineEquation5thPowers.html

What will come next?

Gerson.

                        
Re: A question about conjecture #1
Message #17 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 16 Mar 2006, 2:16 a.m.,
in response to message #16 by Gerson W. Barbosa

Quote:
853595 = 852825 + 289695 + 31835 + 555

This is even beyond the accuracy of my double precision Sharp PC-E500. The sum has 25 digits while the Sharp can handle 20 digit precision. You need at least 83 bits (unsigned binary) to store a number of that size.

Marcus

                              
Re: A question about conjecture #1
Message #18 Posted by James M. Prange (Michigan) on 16 Mar 2006, 3:24 a.m.,
in response to message #17 by Marcus von Cube, Germany

But verified on the 49 series, in "exact" mode.

Regards,
James

                                    
Re: A question about conjecture #1
Message #19 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 16 Mar 2006, 7:28 a.m.,
in response to message #18 by James M. Prange (Michigan)

James,

I simply forgot about the CAS machines which come with arbitrary precision integer arithmetic. The TI Voyage 200 can calculate the sum as well.

Marcus

      
Re: SSMC #14/2 in RPL
Message #20 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 12 Mar 2006, 5:09 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Hi Valentin,

here is my attempt at the second problem in RPL on an HP49g+.

First Step: Computing Prime Numbers

The following program, named MKPR, computes a list of primes. The upper limit is given on the stack:

%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.);
\<< { 2. } 'PRIME' STO 3. SWAP
  FOR i 1. \-> j
    \<<
      DO i PRIME j GET
        IF DUP2 SQ \>=
        THEN
          IF / FP
          THEN j 1. + 'j' STO 0.
          ELSE 1.
          END
        ELSE DROP2 PRIME i + 'PRIME' STO 1.
        END
      UNTIL
      END
    \>> 2.
  STEP
\>>
It computes the following list if 2000 is entered on the stack:

{ 2. 3. 5. 7. 11. 13. 17. 19. 23. 29. 31. 37. 41. 43. 47. 53. 59. 61. 67. 71. 73. 79. 83. 89. 97. 101. 103. 107. 109. 113. 127. 131. 137. 139. 149. 151. 157. 163. 167. 173. 179. 181. 191. 193. 197. 199. 211. 223. 227. 229. 233. 239. 241. 251. 257. 263. 269. 271. 277. 281. 283. 293. 307. 311. 313. 317. 331. 337. 347. 349. 353. 359. 367. 373. 379. 383. 389. 397. 401. 409. 419. 421. 431. 433. 439. 443. 449. 457. 461. 463. 467. 479. 487. 491. 499. 503. 509. 521. 523. 541. 547. 557. 563. 569. 571. 577. 587. 593. 599. 601. 607. 613. 617. 619. 631. 641. 643. 647. 653. 659. 661. 673. 677. 683. 691. 701. 709. 719. 727. 733. 739. 743. 751. 757. 761. 769. 773. 787. 797. 809. 811. 821. 823. 827. 829. 839. 853. 857. 859. 863. 877. 881. 883. 887. 907. 911. 919. 929. 937. 941. 947. 953. 967. 971. 977. 983. 991. 997. 1009. 1013. 1019. 1021. 1031. 1033. 1039. 1049. 1051. 1061. 1063. 1069. 1087. 1091. 1093. 1097. 1103. 1109. 1117. 1123. 1129. 1151. 1153. 1163. 1171. 1181. 1187. 1193. 1201. 1213. 1217. 1223. 1229. 1231. 1237. 1249. 1259. 1277. 1279. 1283. 1289. 1291. 1297. 1301. 1303. 1307. 1319. 1321. 1327. 1361. 1367. 1373. 1381. 1399. 1409. 1423. 1427. 1429. 1433. 1439. 1447. 1451. 1453. 1459. 1471. 1481. 1483. 1487. 1489. 1493. 1499. 1511. 1523. 1531. 1543. 1549. 1553. 1559. 1567. 1571. 1579. 1583. 1597. 1601. 1607. 1609. 1613. 1619. 1621. 1627. 1637. 1657. 1663. 1667. 1669. 1693. 1697. 1699. 1709. 1721. 1723. 1733. 1741. 1747. 1753. 1759. 1777. 1783. 1787. 1789. 1801. 1811. 1823. 1831. 1847. 1861. 1867. 1871. 1873. 1877. 1879. 1889. 1901. 1907. 1913. 1931. 1933. 1949. 1951. 1973. 1979. 1987. 1993. 1997. 1999. }

You should set numeric and approximate mode before creating the list. The list is hopefully correct; if not, please complain!

Second Step: Computing Powers

The next RPL program, named MKPOW, creates a list of powers as indicated in the challenge. The upper limit is entered on the stack:

%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.);
\<< { 1. } 'POWR' STO \-> n
  \<< 2. n LN 2. LN /
    FOR p 2. n p XROOT
      FOR i POWR i p ^ 
        IF DUP2 POS
        THEN DROP2
        ELSE + 'POWR' STO
        END
      NEXT
    NEXT
  \>> POWR SORT 'POWR' STO
\>>

Here is the result:

{ 1. 4. 8. 9. 16. 25. 27. 32. 36. 49. 64. 81. 100. 121. 125. 128. 144. 169. 196. 216. 225. 243. 256. 289. 324. 343. 361. 400. 441. 484. 512. 529. 576. 625. 676. 729. 784. 841. 900. 961. 1000. 1024. 1089. 1156. 1225. 1296. 1331. 1369. 1444. 1521. 1600. 1681. 1728. 1764. 1849. 1936. }

If anything is wrong with my list, post a comment, please!

Final Step: Search for Sums

Here is my attempt, named SSMC14, to find a number which cannot be represented as a sum of elements taken from each of the lists:

%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.);
\<< 6. SWAP
  FOR n
    n 3 DISP
    0. \-> p
    \<<
      DO p 1. + 'p' STO n POWR p GET -
        IF DUP 0. >
        THEN PRIME SWAP POS
        ELSE n HALT 1.
        END
      UNTIL
      END
    \>>
  NEXT
\>>

If it finds a solution, it hits a breakpoint. The prgramm must be killed manually or can be continued to search for more solutions. The upper limit is entered on the stack. Both lists must be created beforehand.

Here is my result:

1549

Marcus

            
Re: SSMC #14/2 in RPL
Message #21 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 12 Mar 2006, 6:49 p.m.,
in response to message #20 by Marcus von Cube, Germany

Hi, Marcus:

Your result is correct. Timing ?

Best regards from V.

                  
Re: SSMC #14/2 in RPL
Message #22 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 13 Mar 2006, 2:52 a.m.,
in response to message #21 by Valentin Albillo

Quote:
Your result is correct. Timing ?

Wow!

Creating the lists is a matter minutes (PRIME, 2:10) or Seconds (POWR, 0:04). The search itself took 25 minutes. All measurements were done on a 49g+

Marcus

            
Re: SSMC #14/2 in RPL
Message #23 Posted by Arnaud Amiel on 13 Mar 2006, 3:53 a.m.,
in response to message #20 by Marcus von Cube, Germany

Unfortunately I haven't had time to look at the SSMC but I would have used the NEXTPRIME command on the 49.

It works correctly up to a few millions.

Arnaud

                  
Re: SSMC #14/2 in RPL
Message #24 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 13 Mar 2006, 4:42 a.m.,
in response to message #23 by Arnaud Amiel

Arnaud,

NEXTPRIME might be worth a try to speed up building the PRIME list but we cannot gain more than about 2 minutes here. On the other hand, the programs posted should work on the lower end machines, too.

The 48S cannot sort the power list but the roles of the two lists in program SSMC14 can be reversed and the prime list is always sorted. This results in a performance penalty because the userRPL code must operate on the longer of the two lists and the built-in operation POS works on the shorter. The 48G has SORT and can use a sorted POWR list.

I'll probably do some tests on my 48 series machines, too.

Marcus

            
Re: SSMC #14/2 in RPL - Revised
Message #25 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 13 Mar 2006, 5:53 a.m.,
in response to message #20 by Marcus von Cube, Germany

I revised the above solution slightly and added a controlling program to get some timing information.

MKPOW
%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); \<< { 1. } 'POWR' STO \-> n \<< 2 n LN 2 LN / @ log2 n as upper limit FOR p 2 n p XROOT @ n1/p as upper limit FOR i POWR i p ^ IF DUP2 POS @ check if already in list THEN DROP2 ELSE + 'POWR' STO @ add to list END NEXT NEXT \>> POWR SORT 'POWR' STO @ sort list (only on 48G and up) \>>

MKPR
%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); \<< { 2. 3. } 'PRIME' STO @ set up list with first elements 5 SWAP @ loop from 5 to limit on stack FOR i 2 \-> j @ j indexes into the list for divisors \<< DO i @ number to test PRIME j GET @ get divisor from list IF DUP2 SQ \>= @ check if beyond reasonable limit THEN IF / FP @ check if divisible THEN 'j' INCR DROP @ not divisible, try next divisor 0 @ continue with DO-UNTIL ELSE 1 @ leave DO-UNTIL loop END ELSE DROP2 @ drop i and divisor PRIME i + 'PRIME' STO @ add new prime to list 1 @ leave DO-UNTIL loop END UNTIL @ flag is already on the stack END \>> 2 STEP @ next odd number to try \>>

SSMC14
%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); \<< FOR n @ both limits must be on stack! n 3 DISP @ inform user 0 \-> p @ p indexes into the POWR list \<< DO n @ number to test POWR 'p' INCR GET @ first summand from POWR list - @ other summand IF DUP 0 > @ test if both summands are positive THEN PRIME SWAP POS @ leave DO-UNTIL if summand is a prime ELSE DROP n @ Heureka! Show just the result on the stack 1E99 'n' STO @ leave FOR-NEXT 1 @ leave DO-UNTIL END UNTIL @ flag is already on the stack END \>> NEXT \>>

SSMC14-V2 Slower but works with unsorted POWR list on HP48S
%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); \<< FOR n n 3 DISP 0 \-> p \<< DO n POWR 'p' INCR GET - IF DUP 0 > THEN POWR SWAP POS ELSE DROP n 1E99 'n' STO 1 END UNTIL END \>> NEXT \>>

TIM Timing loop
%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); \<< TIME 2000 MKPOW TIME 600 .1 BEEP 2000 MKPR TIME 600 .1 BEEP 6 2000 SSMC14 TIME 600 .1 BEEP \>>

The software is currently executing on an HP48G, I'll post timing information later.

Marcus

----------------------------------------------------

Here are the execution times on a 48G:

MKPOW: 00:00:16 (h:m:s)
MKPR: 00:09:09
SSMC14: 02:05:10

This is roughly factor 4 compared to the 49g+.

Marcus

Edited: 13 Mar 2006, 8:16 a.m.

      
Re: Short & Sweet Math Challenge #14: Cooking Conjectures !
Message #26 Posted by Gerson W. Barbosa on 12 Mar 2006, 10:34 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Here is my Emu71 version for problem #1 slightly modified to avoid some unnecessary additions. Now it is about 50% faster:

>LIST 25 STD @ DIM Q(150) @ FOR I=2 TO 150 @ Q(I)=I^5 @ NEXT I 50 FOR I=150 TO 6 STEP -1 @ E5=Q(I) @ DISP I 65 FOR J=I-1 TO 5 STEP -1 @ FOR K=J-1 TO 4 STEP -1 @ FOR L=K-1 TO 3 STEP -1 70 S1=Q(J)+Q(K) @ IF S1>E5 THEN 110 80 FOR M=L-1 TO 2 STEP -1 @ S2=S1+Q(L) @ IF S2>E5 THEN 105 90 S3=S2+Q(M) @ IF S3<E5 THEN 110 ELSE IF S3=E5 THEN 130 100 NEXT M 105 NEXT L 110 NEXT K @ NEXT J 120 NEXT I 130 PRINT I,J;K;L;M > >RUN 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 144 133 110 84 27

Running time: 47 min 21 sec @ 500MHz (previously 1 hour 10 min 36 sec).

Regards,

Gerson.

      
S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #27 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 13 Mar 2006, 6:13 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Valentin Albillo

Hi all:

Thanks to all of you who were interested in this S&SMC#14, and most specially to the outstanding ones (Marcus von Cube, Eamonn, Gerson W. Barbosa, Mr. Hohmann) who actually cared to take the time to develop and post their very clever solutions, I really hope you enjoyed it and consider the afforded time well spent. These are my original solutions, with comments.

Conjecture 1: Well-done

This is a particular case of a plausible conjecture issued by Euler in 1769, which resisted every effort to prove or disprove it for almost two centuries until it was finally disproved in 1966 when the first counterexample was found by Lander and Parkin, using a then quite powerful CDC 6600 computer.

Now, we're asked to duplicate that feat, namely finding a non-trivial solution to A5+B5+C5+D5 =E5 in non-zero integers, using our favorite handhelds. A straightforward, dumb brute-force search would require excessive running times (flattening several sets of batteries in the process), but a few refinements here and there will cut down the task by several orders of magnitude. However, these refinements need a significant amount of RAM to implement, which means only advanced models like the HP-41CX, HP42S, HP-71B, and HP48/49 can be profitably used.

Here's my original 7-line, 251-byte solution for the HP-71B

    1 DESTROY ALL @ OPTION BASE 0 @ K=150 @ DIM P(K)
    2 FOR I=0 TO K @ P(I)=I*I*I*I*I @ NEXT I @ R=.2 @ L=2^R @ M=3^R @ N=4^R
    3 FOR E=K TO 1 STEP -1 @ T=P(E) @ DISP E
    4 FOR D=E-1 TO E/N STEP -1 @ F=T-P(D) @ U=F^R
    5 FOR C=INT(U) TO U/M STEP -1 @ G=F-P(C) @ V=G^R @ FOR B=INT(V) TO V/L STEP -1
    6 IF NOT FP((G-P(B))^R) THEN A=(G-P(B))^R @ DISP A;B;C;D;E @ END
    7 NEXT B @ NEXT C @ NEXT D @ NEXT E
upon running, it eventually outputs:
    >RUN

27 84 110 133 144

which is the sought-for counterexample, as indeed
    275 + 845 + 1105 + 1335 = 61917364224 = 1445
The running time is a short 90 min. in an actual, physical HP-71B, and only 13 seconds under Emu71 in my IBM laptop. To achieve such short times the following techniques are used to speed the search, they key of which is to iteratively reduce the problem to a similar yet easier one:
  • first of all, a table of 5th-powers for integer arguments from 0 to 150 is precomputed, so that during the search the extremely frequent need of raising values to the 5th power is reduced to indexing an array element, which is significantly faster.

  • some other needed constants are precomputed as well, which saves additional time when they're used inside the search's nested loops, namely 1/5, 21/5, 31/5, 41/5

  • the outer loop traverses all possible values for E in reverse order, from the largest possible value to the smallest.

  • for earch value of E, we must try to decompose E5 as the sum of four 5th-powers. Assuming D is the largest one, we must search for a decomposition of E5-D5 in three 5th-powers where, as D is the largest element by definition, we only need to search for values of D in the limited range:

    (E5/4)1/5 <= D < (E5)1/5 i.e. E/41/5 <= D < E

    which we traverse in reverse order as well. For each value of D, we must now try to decompose E5-D5 as the sum of three 5th-powers, so we've reduced our problem to a similar but simpler one, and the same argument is repeated till a single summand is left, which we simply check to ascertain whether it is a 5th-power or not (i.e.: the fractional part of its fifth root equals 0). When this condition is met, we've found a counterexample so the program outputs it and stops.

Conjecture 2: Medium

We're asked for the smallest integer number from 6 to 2000 that can't be decomposed as the sum of a prime and a non-zero power.

A brute-force search would again require excessive running time, but we can trade RAM for speed once more. This is my original 9-line, 259-byte solution for the HP-71:

    1 DESTROY ALL @ OPTION BASE 1 @ M=2000 @ D=LOG(M) @ N=INT(SQR(M))
    2 INTEGER P(M),Q(310) @ FOR B=2 TO N
    3 FOR E=2 TO INT(D/LOG(B)) @ P(B^E)=1 @ NEXT E @ NEXT B @ P(1)=1 @ Q(1)=2 @ I=2
    4 FOR N=3 TO M-1 STEP 2 @ FOR D=3 TO INT(SQR(N)) STEP 2 @ IF MOD(N,D)=0 THEN 6
    5 NEXT D @ Q(I)=N @ I=I+1
    6 NEXT N @ T=I-1 @ FOR N=6 TO M
    7 FOR D=1 TO T @ E=N-Q(D) @ IF E<=0 THEN DISP N @ END ELSE IF P(E) THEN 9
    8 NEXT D @ DISP N @ END
    9 NEXT N
upon running, it outputs:
    >RUN

1549

which is the smallest counterexample. The running time is a fast 30 min. in a physical HP-71B, and only 6 seconds under Emu71 in my IBM laptop, thanks to these simple yet efficient techniques:
  • first of all, this challenge's actually far easier than it seems at first. Actually, for the search to proceed fast and smoothly, we need but two things: (1) to have all relevant prime numbers instantly at hand, and (2) to be able to test extremely quickly whether a given integer is a perfect power or not. This is achieved as follows:

  • all primes up to 2000 are precomputed and stored in an array so that they can be retrieved very fast during the search

  • in order to quickly check whether a given integer is a perfect power or not, we stablish a 2000-element 'flag' array where each element has the value 1 or 0 depending on whether the index is a perfect power or not, i.e., P(7)=0, P(8)=1 ( as 8=23), etc. This could be achieved using much less RAM by packing eight such 'flags' per byte in a string, for instance, but here speed is our top priority so we simply define an integer array and let each individual element act as a 'flag'.

  • with primes and very fast power-detection available, the main search just traverses all possible values from 6 to 2000, in ascending order. For each, every prime is subtracted in turn and the result is checked to see if it is a perfect power, skipping to the next value if it is. When no prime subtracted will result in a perfect power remaining, the corresponding value is output as a valid counterexample.

  • by the way, the prime array is dimensioned to have 310 elements because there are some 300+ prime numbers in the range from 2 to 2000 (actually, 303). If you've got INTEGRATE capabilities in your HP model, you can very quickly compute an approximate value for the required number of elements as follows:
           approx. #primes up to M = INT(INTEGRAL(2,M,1,1/LN(IVAR))
    
    so that the line:
             2 INTEGER P(M),Q(310) @ ...
    
    becomes:
             2 INTEGER P(M),Q(INTEGRAL(2,M,1,1/LN(IVAR))) @ ...
    
    and this allows you to expand the search to numbers greater than 2000 by simply changing the value assigned to M at line 1, without having to consult tables for the proper size of array Q. As the integration's uncertainty is specified as 1, (i.e: FIX 0 or SCI 0 for models that use the display setting instead), the integral is computed very quickly.

    Now, you'll agree with me that a line which dimensions an array with a size defined by a non-elementary integral isn't that frequent a sight.

Conjecture 3: Rare

This is a well-known conjecture as yet unproved or disproved, though everybody and his uncle feels that 196 is a true counterexample, as it has failed to produce a palindrome after hundreds and hundreds of millions of cycles. For instance, after 670,000,000 cycles you're dealing with numbers 280,000,000-digit long(!!), yet no palindrome in sight ...

In order to implement this challenge, multiprecision addition is mandatory, which can be done with arrays or else with strings, which is the technique I've used in my original 8-line, 364-byte solution for the HP-71B:

    1 DIM M$[500],N$[500] @ INPUT "#Cmax=";M @ FOR I=0 TO 200 @ N$=STR$(I) @ K=0
    2 CALL MADD(N$,M$,K) @ IF M$=REV$(M$) THEN 4 ELSE IF K<M THEN N$=M$ @ GOTO 2
    3 DISP I;"fails (";M$;" after";M;"cycles)"
    4 NEXT I @ DISP "OK" @ END

5 SUB MADD(A$,C$,K) @ DIM B$[500] @ L=LEN(A$) @ E=10^11 @ C$="" @ C=0 6 B$=REV$(A$) @ FOR I=L TO 1 STEP -11 @ C=VAL(A$[I-10,I])+VAL(B$[I-10,I])+C 7 D$=STR$(MOD(C,E)) @ C$=RPT$("0",11-LEN(D$))&D$&C$ @ C=C DIV E @ NEXT I 8 C$=LTRIM$(STR$(C)&C$,"0") @ K=K+1 @ END SUB

The algorithm is completely straightforward and no special techniques are needed, though both for speed and to avoid obscuring the inner works with trivial utility routines, I've made use of several string-handling keywords (REV$, RPT$, LTRIM$) which are available in a number of very common LEX files and ROMs (STRNGLEX, REVLEX, RPTLEX, JPC ROM, etc). The program works as follows:
  • the multiprecision results will be stored in strings (which in the case of the HP-71B would allow us to handle up to 65000-digit numbers!), initially dimensioned to hold up to 500-digit numbers, more than enough for up to 1000 cycles.

  • to perform the multiprecision addition of a number and its mirror image, a call to the MADD subprogram is made. This subprogram takes the number as one of its string arguments pased by value, and returns the result of the addition as another string argument passed by reference. For instance:
             >CALL MADD("78",M$,0) @ M$

    165

    >>CALL MADD("8263485213753244473212",M$,0) @ M$

    10387229637326370316840

    because 78+87 = 165 and 8263485213753244473212+2123744423573125843628 = 10387229637326370316840. Actually, the subprogram's code could be inserted directly in the main program proper, so we could get rid of the subprogram altogether and get a slightly faster, shorter program (7 lines instead of 8) but 'outsourcing' particular tasks to subprograms encourages modular programming and makes for clearer, cleaner code and provides additional functionality as well.

    After calling the subprogram, the main program just checks if the new result is palindromic, or if we've exhausted the number of cycles, and iterates as needed.

Upon running, it produces the following, for assorted maximum number of cycles (10, 20, 40, 100, 200, 1000):

    >RUN

#Cmax=10

89 fails (8872688 after 10 cycles) 98 fails (8872688 after 10 cycles) 167 fails (17050517 after 10 cycles) 177 fails (17794887 after 10 cycles) 187 fails (17735476 after 10 cycles) 196 fails (18211171 after 10 cycles)

OK

>RUN

#Cmax=20

89 fails (93445163438 after 20 cycles) 98 fails (93445163438 after 20 cycles) 187 fails (176881317877 after 20 cycles) 196 fails (70446464506 after 20 cycles)

OK

>RUN

#Cmax=40

196 fails (13305261530450734933 after 40 cycles)

OK

>RUN

#Cmax=100

196 fails (44757771534490515617290699271561508443627774644 after 100 cycles)

OK

>RUN

#Cmax=200

196 fails (910449546741765655298269802255629632301207255281 2103235826563197972803556567037646054008 after 200 cycles)

OK

>RUN

#Cmax=1000

196 fails (35346644392413689785837714402912114362859098083 41408344020861450405992918328457190349563871687 95800463971545914548326676428378028814710683108 50549641273388365259932008237493462055424091251 57901200166876923521977766210101074152201325440 26439582289914006246477437313605494900387117318 73088382467552483640965506947400858697069355944 18174493380829951504425811945379423290791058264 41012030342772858788740429334664452 after 1000 cycles)

OK

So it's clear that 196 is a very firm candidate for a counterexample. Of course, it's not the only one, other candidates include (up to N=2000): 295, 394, 493, 592, 689, 691, 788, 790, 879, 887, 978, 986, 1495, 1497, 1585, 1587, 1675, 1677, 1765, 1767, 1855, 1857, 1945, 1947, and 1997.

That's all. Thanks again and

Best regards from V.

            
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #28 Posted by J-F Garnier on 14 Mar 2006, 3:33 a.m.,
in response to message #27 by Valentin Albillo

Hello Valentin,

Unfortunatly, I had little time for your challenge, but the first part looked especially interesting for me, trying to reproduce a proof made on 1966 on a large computer with a small handheld of the '80s.

And your solution is so simple, as usual ...

Do you have a reference to the original paper from Lander and Parkin? I would like to know more on how they proceeded.

J-F

                  
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #29 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 14 Mar 2006, 5:41 a.m.,
in response to message #28 by J-F Garnier

Hi, Jean-François:

Jean-François posted:

"Unfortunatly, I had little time for your challenge, but the first part looked especially interesting for me, trying to reproduce a proof made on 1966 on a large computer with a small handheld of the '80s."

    Yes, I missed your usual top-quality contributions to my challenges, it's a real pity you couldn't give it a try. And I agree on the fun factor of having a quite petite handheld doing essentially the same as an original mainframe computer which used to fill a whole room:

    The awesome CDC 6600 mainframe computer

    This CDC 6600 was designed by Seymour Cray himself, of Cray supercomputers fame, and had a 60-bit processor capable of 4.58 Mflops, impressive for its time indeed.

"And your solution is so simple, as usual ..."
    Thanks, J-F, but I insist, my challenges *are* simple, that's why I call them "Short & Sweet". They never require more than a few lines of code, and simple code at that.
"Do you have a reference to the original paper from Lander and Parkin? I would like to know more on how they proceeded."
    Reference, yes:

    "Lander, L. J. and Parkin, T. R. "A Counterexample to Euler's Sum of Powers Conjecture." Math. Comput. 21, 101-103, 1967."

    Unfortunately, the paper itself, no. It seems to be available only from non-free subscription services. As far as I know, their procedure was similar to mine, only more ambitious because they also attacked more general equations, involving powers up to the 6th. It's quite possible for they to have made use of congruences (i.e. particular remainders when using specific divisors, etc) to discard ranges of tentative values for the inner loops.

    I did try a few congruences but the program got more complicated and worse, no speed was actually gained. In a CDC 6600 assembly-language program or compiled code, using just integer operations, congruences would be very effective. But for the floating point HP-71B environment, no gains are made in this case.

    Thanks for your interest, and please don't miss my next challenge, come next April 1st.

Bes regards from V.

                        
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #30 Posted by Marcus von Cube, Germany on 14 Mar 2006, 9:01 a.m.,
in response to message #29 by Valentin Albillo

Hi Valentin,

Quote:
... and please don't miss my next challenge, come next April 1st

Can we expect an April's fool joke?

Marcus

                  
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #31 Posted by Etienne Victoria on 14 Mar 2006, 11:14 a.m.,
in response to message #28 by J-F Garnier

Hello Jean-François,

And don't miss the Euler.net for interesting stuff on conjectures.

Cordialement.

Etienne

                        
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #32 Posted by GE on 15 Mar 2006, 7:57 a.m.,
in response to message #31 by Etienne Victoria

Thank you for an interesting challenge.
I was disappointed to see that no actual math trick could be used here, that was rather a programmer's challenge.
Please accept my apologies for posting a solution without code, I was just thrilled to 'know' the solution of one of the challenges.
Actually I tried Challenge 1 on my 1BBBB, and it ran about the same as solutions showed her, but with no optimizations and I felt it was too slow and ridiculous to be posted here.
To make for my inappropriate post, here is a small challenge for you : solve 28^x = 19^y + 87^z for x, y and z integers.
There IS some math trickery possible...
See you on the 1st of April.

                              
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #33 Posted by J-F Garnier on 21 Mar 2006, 6:38 a.m.,
in response to message #32 by GE

Hi GE,

28^x = 19^y + 87^z for x, y and z integers

You didn't give us the solution...

J-F

                                    
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #34 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 21 Mar 2006, 6:53 a.m.,
in response to message #33 by J-F Garnier

Hi, Jean-François:

Jean-François posted:

"Hi GE, 28^x = 19^y + 87^z for x, y and z integers You didn't give us the solution..."

    There is no solution to the equation you mention in your post, so it's no big surprise the person you're addressing would fail to provide one.

    Per my posted commitment I read or answer nothing by anonymous posters so I don't quite know what's all about. Some kind of joke, perhaps ?

Best regards from V.

                                          
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #35 Posted by Chris Dean on 21 Mar 2006, 8:11 a.m.,
in response to message #34 by Valentin Albillo

Valentin et al

I had a go at this myself with no joy

Quote:
See you on the 1st of April.

Could this have been a clue!

Regards

Chris

                                                
Re: S&SMC#14: My Original Solutions and Comments [LONG]
Message #36 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 21 Mar 2006, 8:36 a.m.,
in response to message #35 by Chris Dean

Hi, Chris:

Chris posted:

"I had a go at this myself with no joy. Quote: See you on the 1st of April. Could this have been a clue!"

    Can't say. As stated, I didn't read the original post J-F mentions, so I don't know what was asked or any further comments about it, though judging from J-F's post, it seems that a solution was asked to a diophantine equation which has none.

    It that was indeed the case, how this is supposed to be considered enjoyable by people wasting their time and computer resources on an impossible task is beyond me. Perhaps the mere idea of having people indulge in fruitless efforts seemed indeed enjoyable to the original poster, but I can't say for sure, who knows ...

Best regards from V.


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