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Message #1 Posted by Chris Woodhouse on 10 Aug 2005, 1:02 p.m.

I know a lot of times when people see the high bidder with 0 feed back on an auction, they think it is the seller jacking up the bid.... well I am selling my 42s on ebay and the current high bidder has 0 feed back. That's not the first time that happened to me either. I think it is just that people with 0 feed back aren't experienced on ebay and tend to but in higher bids sooner.

Chris W

      
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Message #2 Posted by Namir on 10 Aug 2005, 2:07 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Chris Woodhouse

I have seen both good and bad newbie eBay bidders with a 0 feedback. Some did come through and some thought it was fun to outbid others but forgot that they had to pay for the item.

      
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Message #3 Posted by Bill (Smithville, NJ) on 10 Aug 2005, 2:15 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Chris Woodhouse

Keep in mind that we ALL had zero feedback until we made that first successful bid/purchase.

After watching ebay for the past year or so, I finally signed up and made my first successful bid a few weeks ago. Actually, it was a buy it now. But still counts.

So I went from feedback of ZERO to ONE. There's probally many savy ebayer's that will still view my ONE feedback as a problem.

Bill (12345)

      
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Message #4 Posted by Howard Owen on 10 Aug 2005, 2:33 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Chris Woodhouse

Well, one is better than none, two is better than one and so forth.

I don't worry about shills automatically when I see a bidder with low experience. I'm more nervous about the inexperienced bidder jacking up the auction (if I'm a buyer) or backing out on the sale (if I'm a seller.) I do start worrying about shills when both the seller and the top bidder have little experience. I generally stay away from auctions like that. But you also have to be careful about the nature of feedback with some sellers. There's an industry on eBay that churns out positive feedback in exchange for one dollar bids on recipes or other intangible goods. I always, always, always try to drill down on the auctions a seller has listed in feedback. That gives me a good sense of whether or not the seller is legit. This also works with buyers. If you are in a competitive bidding situation, you can gain understanding of the other guy by seeing what he's bought recently, and how much he paid for it.

BTW, I'm in the market for a 42S. I'd be bidding on yours, except I have another bid outstanding at the moment. Good luck!

      
It's all relative
Message #5 Posted by Mike on 10 Aug 2005, 2:34 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Chris Woodhouse

I've seen zero feedback bidders that I'd rather deal with than positive feedback bidders. I've honestly had more problems with people that have had 5, 10 or 20 negatives that were masked by hundreds of positives.

I judge bidders by what their negatives say, moreso than their positives.

When you read someone's feedback, be sure to read the feedback of the other bidder or seller. You can generally get a good idea who was at fault and who is a problem by reading feedback comments for negatives. Positive feedback is usually just routine and gives little info. Negatives tell a lot however. .

Edited: 10 Aug 2005, 2:38 p.m.


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