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HP-71B & HP-75C/D module list?
Message #1 Posted by Matthias on 7 Nov 2004, 6:35 p.m.

Hi

As you know Im anxious to provide you a detailed list of all known HP-41 modules. But does someone of you does this with the HP-71B or the HP-75C/D? I know there are much less modules but I am really interested to know which modules exist...

Matthias

      
Re: HP-71B & HP-75C/D module list?
Message #2 Posted by Garth Wilson on 8 Nov 2004, 2:56 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by Matthias

This is from Educalc's catalog #35 from 1987, the one in which they announced HP was discontinuing the HP-75. The 82... stock numbers undoubtedly are exact HP numbers.

HP75:

Stock #92267A [HP-75 hi-res wand] List price $160

Stock #92267B [HP-75 med-res wand] List price $150

Stock #82725A (bar code module) List price $75

Stock #82718A expansion pod (contains 300 bps direct-connect modem, 32K RAM disc, and two bar code decoders built in) List price $875

Stock #F15001 (75-15001 I/O module) List price $95 (but didn't the 75 come with the HPIL built in?)

Stock #82700 (8K memory module) List price $195

Stock #75-669 (blank 32K EPROM module made by CMT, not HP) List price $229

Stock #15012 (75 surveying module) List price $295

Stock #F15015 (75-15015 math module) List price $145

Stock #F15019 (75-15019 text formatter module) List price $95

I know VisiCalc was also available in a module.

HP-71: Stock #82400 [71 card reader] List price $165

Stock #71-ZWD [Zenwand bar code reading, analyzing, and printing system, made by Zengrange, not HP] List price $400

Stock #82401 [71 HPIL] List price $125

Stock #82402 [71 dual IL adapter] List price $99

Stock #71-672 [32K front port EPROM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $100

Stock #71-731 [64K front port EPROM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $156

Stock #71-656 [32K front port RAM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $150

Stock #71-845A [CMT-CR-32R 32K card reader port RAM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $150

Stock #71-845B [CMT-CR-64R 64K card reader port RAM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $270

Stock #71-845C [CMT-CR-96R 96K card reader port RAM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $360

Stock #71-845D [CMT-CR-128R 128K card reader port RAM, made by CMT, not HP] List price $446

Stock #71-845E [CMT-CR-32/32 32K RAM and 32K EPROM in card reader port, made by CMT, not HP] List price $226

Stock #82420 [4K RAM, made by HP] List price $75

Stock #71-789A [32K OTP ROM] $92/ea for 5-9, $85/ea for 10-99, $80/ea for 100+

Stock #71-790A [64K OTP ROM] $130/ea for 5-9, $125/ea for 10-99, $118/ea for 100+

Stock #82488 [71 front port datacomm module] List price $95

Stock #82482 [71 finance module] List price $75

Stock #82480 [71 math module] List price $95

Stock #82483 [71 survey module] List price $95

Stock #82490 [71/41 translator module] List price $95

Stock #71-837 [HP-11C, -12C, -16C emulator module, made by CMT] List price $140

Stock #82485 [71 text editor module] List price $75

Stock #82484 [71 curve fitting module] List price $95

Stock #82489 [71 statistics module] List price $95

Stock #71-818 [log analysis module, for petroleum geologists and engineers, by Petrologic] List price $395

Stock #82481 [71 AC circuit analysis module] List price $75

Stock #82479 [71 data acquisition module] List price $195

I also have the HP 82441A Forth/Assembler module, but I know there was another one beside that one.

I seem to remember there was a Paname module put out by the Paris user group. One of the things it added to the BASIC IIRC was a CASE structure.

Various other solutions were offered in book form, on magnetic cards, on cassette, or disc, both for the HP-71 and -75.

Edited: 8 Nov 2004, 2:59 a.m.

            
Re: HP-71B & HP-75C/D module list?
Message #3 Posted by J-F Garnier on 8 Nov 2004, 6:24 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Garth Wilson

> I seem to remember there was a Paname module put out by the Paris user group. One of the things it added to the BASIC IIRC was a CASE structure

Actually, it was the JPCROM that added many features to the HP-71B, including structured programming keywords (multiline IF-THEN-ELSE, CASE, REPEAT-UNTIL, DO-WHILE, LEAVE, ...).

Paname was a module for the HP-41C.

J-F

                  
JPC ROM
Message #4 Posted by Gene on 8 Nov 2004, 10:09 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by J-F Garnier

And, the actual JPC ROM lex file (version X - "fully debugged) is available for download on the net (but I forget where right now). If you have the ability to download and transfer a file over to your HP71B, then this is a great file to add to your machine.

Anyone remember where this can be found?

I know the PDF of the user manual is out there too.

Gene

                        
Re: JPC ROM
Message #5 Posted by Garth Wilson on 8 Nov 2004, 1:32 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Gene

Is it available to enter by keyboard as well, like there were so many LEX files in the CHHU Journal? Those were gold. The keying-in was a minor price to pay, and not susceptible to problems with incompatible media formats, drives going bad, or media getting damaged over the years.

                              
Re: JPC ROM
Message #6 Posted by Gene on 8 Nov 2004, 2:03 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Garth Wilson

Well, it is about 25K or so in length. That would take a LONG time to key.

Anyone who has it could run "dumplex" on it and get the lines to input. I don't know anyone who has done that.

My copy is (fortunately) on an eprom module always plugged into my 71B. :-)

Gene

                                    
Re: JPC ROM
Message #7 Posted by Garth Wilson on 9 Nov 2004, 4:26 p.m.,
in response to message #6 by Gene

Yes, >50,000 keystrokes. The multi-line program structures by themselves sure don't warrant that kind of length, and it would be hard to justify taking that much RAM for it. But I suppose there are a lot of other things in it that I already have in RAM, so the duplicates can be removed to free-up space. Can you give me a list of what else is in it? I expect it has most of the wealth that was in the CHHU Chronicle V2N7 from Nov/Dec '85 in the article "LEXFiles from Paris", although that one does not have the multi-line program structures.

I'm still an advocate for having the ultimate back-up on paper though. I have various inch-thick printouts of my work. If all the electronic media or no-longer-available drives fail over time, you have some recourse besides completely starting over from scratch or going without.

                                          
Re: JPC ROM
Message #8 Posted by Gene on 9 Nov 2004, 5:16 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Garth Wilson

http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv011.cgi?read=28752

Link to the archives with PDF of manual and rom files.

Gene

                                                
Re: JPC ROM
Message #9 Posted by Garth Wilson on 9 Nov 2004, 9:55 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by Gene

Thankyou for looking. I wasn't on the forum back then, so I didn't think about doing the search that I should have done. Unfortunately, the links are dead. If someone has the material that they downloaded when the links were good, I'd like to get it.

                                                      
Anyone else have this online? Links are down...Re: JPC ROM
Message #10 Posted by Gene on 10 Nov 2004, 11:07 a.m.,
in response to message #9 by Garth Wilson

?

                                                            
Re: Anyone else have this online? Links are down...Re: JPC ROM
Message #11 Posted by Mike H on 10 Nov 2004, 4:56 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by Gene

Are they in here? ftp://ftp.hpmuseum.org/lif/swap/

                        
Re: JPC ROM
Message #12 Posted by J-F Garnier on 8 Nov 2004, 3:41 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Gene

The 'Ex' version was put on line by Andy Delano, but his site seems down.

I put a ROM image on my own site for use with Emu71: http://membres.lycos.fr/jeffcalc/emu71.html

J-F

            
Re: HP-71B & HP-75C/D module list: VisiPlot
Message #13 Posted by Mark A. Ordal on 8 Nov 2004, 4:21 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Garth Wilson

Another HP-75C module was "VisiPlot" which gave the VisiCalc module the ability to plot on HP pen plotters (e.g, HP-7470, HP-7475A, etc).

--Mark

      
Re: HP-71B & HP-75C/D module list?
Message #14 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 8 Nov 2004, 6:02 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Matthias

I have scanned pages 56 and 57 from the 1986 HP Catalog which contain a list of the modules. I will email the scans to you.


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