Re: 42S disallowed by NCEES as of 1/15/04 Message #8 Posted by Driscoll on 23 Jan 2004, 12:27 p.m., in response to message #7 by deleted
<< While the easy availability of an inexpensive RPN-capable calculator might have eased the pain of the NCEES policy, I don’t think it would have reduced the grumbling and complaining much. >>
Obviously we'll never know. But note that the NCEES ban also applies to TI and Casio graphing calculators. Yet there has been far less complaining from TI and Casio users than from HP users. Surely this has something to do with the ready availability of inexpensive NCEES-compliant algebraic models (including HP algebraic models, ironically enough), and the inavailablity of comparable RPN models.
<< HP is under no obligation to produce any particular product. We can be mad at them for not doing so, but it’s not like we have an inalienable right to a 33S or any other product. >>
True enough. But by the same logic, NCEES is under no obligation to allow any particular product. We can be mad at them for not doing so, but it's not like we have an inalienable right to use a 48GX or any other product on their exams.
<< The real issue is the mis-guided (in my opinion, hopefully the NCEES will not read this, track me down somehow, and revoke my PE) NCEES policy. >>
It's a lousy policy, but we're stuck with it. Interestingly, NCEES has failed to convince all state engineering boards that it is necessary. So you can still use your 48GX on some state-specific, non-NCEES PE exams.
The California board, for example, requires Civil PE candidates to complete two 2.5-hour supplemental exams (on surveying and seismic issues). The 48GX will still be allowed for these exams, despite the fact that it has been banned on the 8-hour NCEES Civil PE exam.
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