|It's all about RESPECT|
Message #2 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 7 Nov 2003, 6:05 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by harryb
"People like myself with a long history of ownership of hp computing products (and I'm
talking hp67 here) have a preconception that I suspect cannot be fulfilled any longer."
[harryb, please notice this reply does not address you *personally*, but all of us people interested in HP calcs]
Oh yes it can. It's only many such people are sadly missing the target: instead of wasting your hard-earned money in such Chinese-junk, defective products, released by a company that no longer shows the slightest trace of RESPECT for their long-time loyal, professional, knowledgeable customers, you'd rather be advised to instead shift your targets to the really truly excellent vintage machines of the past, such as classic HPs and SHARPs, among others, which despite 20+ years having elapsed, still can run rings in quality and usability around any abortion KinHPo throws down on us.
Some would argue that modern models are much more powerful than vintage ones. First of all, that's absolutely debatable, as it fully depends on the intended uses and how well does the particular machine fit those uses. Me, I have no use for CAS on a calculator at all, whatsoever.
Secondly, there's the vital 'enjoyment' factor. We used to fully ENJOY former HP machines when they were released, and we did ANYTHING, including selling the former one or fasting on water and bread for several months [hello, Tapani] in order to get the cash to buy the new machine, because we KNEW that it would be a wonderful achievement, state-of-the-art handheld computing device. There was always the 'I want more RAM' or 'I want more speed', but everyone was delighted with the HP-65, the HP-25, the HP-67, the HP-15C, the HP-41. No sacrifice was too big as we KNEW it was well worth it, absolutely.
We were DELIGHTED, with capitals, for lack of a better word.
Those of you who, like me, have been through the 25, 67, 41, fully know the experience and can relate to that heart-and-mind enthralling FEELING.
Now, can any of you say the same about any of the new KinHPo offerings ? Are you DELIGHTED with them ? Do they raise goose bumps ? Do you feel ecstatic ? Do you feel you've got a truly quality item that you're proud to own and to show everyone, no matter the cost ?
Or on the contrary, are you trying hard to get used to that dreaded keyboard, and inventing excuses to justify it doesn't work as reliably and ergonomically as it should ? And that nasty flicker ? That 'hollow' feeling ? The manuals ? The umpteenth ROM upgrade which cures a bunch of bugs and introduces yet anothers ? Can you trust the results ? Can you enumerate the nasty bugs the HP-67 had ? And those of the HP-15C ? Would you consider the HP-41C bugs (which opened the door to synthetic programming) to be nasty ? What about the HP-41C Owner's Handbook ? And the 4-colour, spiral HP-67 Owner's Handbook ? What about the HP-15C's keyboard ? What about ENJOYMENT and PRIDE, when users where considered outstanding professionals and valued customers, and RESPECTED like such ?
Me, I'll take disrespect from NOBODY, and much less pay for it.
Can you say the same ? What new excuse will you come up with ?
Best regards from V.