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Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #1 Posted by JohnW on 28 Oct 2003, 7:35 p.m. Just wondering if anyone has a new 49g+ with a Serial Number newer than CN334xxxxx? Just wondering if some of the early bugs have been fixed yet? Also, does anyone whose followed HP Calcs through the years know if other newly introduced HP calculators had similar type early problems too??? Please only respond for calcs that were made earlier than the 48 series.... Thanks.

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #2 Posted by Ernie Malaga on 28 Oct 2003, 8:06 p.m., in response to message #1 by JohnW Quote: Also, does anyone whose followed HP Calcs through the years know if other newly introduced HP calculators had similar type early problems too??? Please only respond for calcs that were made earlier than the 48 series.... Most definitely. The best-documented example is the HP-41C. It had a dozen or so bugs, and they were given numbers. Bug #2, for example, allowed you to set or clear flags greater than 29, if done indirectly. Bug #3 (I think) allowed you to store program lines into memory registers -- again, by doing it indirectly. This gave rise to the Synthetic Programming fever, of which I took a very tiny part. Happy programming. -Ernie

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #3 Posted by Arnaud Amiel on 29 Oct 2003, 6:01 a.m., in response to message #1 by JohnW As far as the new hardware glitches are concerned: I have a 45 that is older than me but whose original owner confirmed that the [1/x] key never worked reliably, he always used logs then. So missed keys is not something new. What is more on this model the bottom "hp45" sticker is not even straight. Some people criticise the Chinese quality control. I should say that the US one was not much better then. However, apart from the battery pack that I have been in the process of trying to begin to restore for the last three months or so, the calc is still running strong. Arnaud

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #4 Posted by Jim Chumbley on 29 Oct 2003, 10:27 p.m., in response to message #1 by JohnW Hi, John. I might qualify to help answer the concern. My first 49g+ was bought on 10/7/2003, was delivered on 10/8/2003, and failed on 10/26/2003. This machine's serial number is: CN33103995, and it was delivered with a ROM image of 1.19. Very interesting to me was the reaction of HP's Customer Support team when I called them asking them to please call 911. They swear that this serial number is earlier than ANY delivered -49g+, and from this they conclude that my machine MUST be some other model, some other calculator. The new machine, which just arrived today, 10/29/2003, is serial number CN33404556 and contains a ROM image of 1.20. My retailer told me that it was from the second production run of the -49g+s. My conclusion: The machines are identical in touch, feel, and appearance, but not--let us hope--in reliability.

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #5 Posted by r. d. bärtschiger. on 29 Oct 2003, 10:40 p.m., in response to message #4 by Jim Chumbley My HP-49G+ which arrived 24-Sep-2003 has a serial no. of: CN33101... which is about 2000 lower than your number. rdb.

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #6 Posted by Jim Chumbley on 30 Oct 2003, 10:43 p.m., in response to message #5 by r. d. bärtschiger. Then I wonder what model calculator HP Customer Service thinks yours is???

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #7 Posted by James M. Prange on 31 Oct 2003, 12:49 a.m., in response to message #6 by Jim Chumbley 49g+Beta?

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #8 Posted by Anonymous on 3 Nov 2003, 9:50 a.m., in response to message #7 by James M. Prange The 49g+ was released in other parts of the world, more then a month before they released the calculator in the United States. It is possible to get old serial and ROM versions. The US models should have a ROM of 1.20 or higher, but should come with the ROM version 1.22.

Re: Anyone with a 49g+ serial >cn334...?? Message #9 Posted by James M. Prange on 3 Nov 2003, 2:33 p.m., in response to message #8 by Anonymous You may have something there. Maybe these low serial number 49g+es were intended to go out to those durn foreigners as beta test units, but imported to the U.S.A. as grey market items. Just kidding (mostly). Mine came from Samon Cables with an external serial CN331..., internal serial CN337..., and ROM revision #1.20. Regards, James

My serial # is CN333040946 Message #10 Posted by CalcKidd on 7 Nov 2003, 9:20 a.m., in response to message #9 by James M. Prange Came with 1.19 (which I immediately upgraded to 1.22). Flickers and sometimes seems to forget what key I pressed. Bought it from Samon Cables. FYI

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