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hp49 g algebraic programming Message #1 Posted by Ortiz R. on 8 Oct 2003, 10:17 p.m. I would like to learn how to program my hp49g in algebraic mode. I also want to know where I can get some documents including some examples.

Re: hp49 g algebraic programming Message #2 Posted by Tom (UK) on 9 Oct 2003, 12:44 p.m., in response to message #1 by Ortiz R. HP didn't realy support programming for the HP49G, the only guide and examples I know of are in the HP49G user guide. RPL programming support was only there because it was so similar to the HP48G that people could use the many books and programming examples on the HP49G. (HP even suggested to me that if I wanted to learn how to program the HP49G in RPL then I should buy the HP48G manuals!). There has not been much interest from the calculating community in programming in algebraic mode so support (official and unofficial) is very scarce - this is a pity because although the algebraic mode is not as powerful as using RPL it may be an aption some buyers would like to use. Those who have received the documentation for the HP49G+ may be able to say if there is any support for programming in algebraic mode.

Re: hp49 g algebraic programming Message #3 Posted by tom lianza on 9 Oct 2003, 1:20 p.m., in response to message #2 by Tom (UK) I recently recieved my 49g+ and keeping with the current HP form, the documentation is dismal. The product ships with a "User's Manual" that references the "User's Guide". The User's Guide has all the documentation and it is shipped as a PDF file, which is OK, but they didn't use any of the pdf functionallity for table of contents. Hence, you have to page through 800 or so pages of text whose page numbers in the manual index (listed in chapter-page number) don't correlate to the pdf page numbers.... The answer to the above question is that HP still does not support programming in Algebraic mode....

Re: hp49 g algebraic programming Message #4 Posted by bill platt on 9 Oct 2003, 2:30 p.m., in response to message #1 by Ortiz R. Hi, Well, as some previous posts in this thread suggest, HP is not taking any responsibility for the programming capabilities of the new machine. Now, maybe I am a bit alarmist, but as far as I am concerned, any calculator that does not come with a manual, is merely a toy, and not a real tool. Yes, some people are willing, able, and actively going after the programming of the 49G and the G+, and JYA and others who were intimately involved in the development of the 49 are still actively posting to comp.sys.hp48, and so perhaps that is "documentation" enough for some, but not for me., Especially in light of the "outsourced" nature of the beast (49G+) and the whole new harware platform--and hte recent track record with the 12C platinum. I don't trust the product if the manufacturer doesn't even trust it. I will stck with my older machines including the 48, until better documentation comes along. Why rush, if the product is not up to snuff? There are plenty of new old stock 48's around! regards, Bill

Re: hp49 g algebraic programming Message #5 Posted by Eddy on 9 Oct 2003, 5:56 p.m., in response to message #1 by Ortiz R. "I would like to learn how to program my hp49g in algebraic mode. " Good Luck! Algebraic programing just stinks. Its ineficient and confusing. RPN is just to awesome my advice: stick to it. "I also want to know where I can get some documents including some examples." Nowhere. All tutorials and documents {and programs) ive ever seen are for RPN. but, if you really want to srick to algebraic... Get an RPN tutorial and convert instructions to algebraic. Remember: In RPN, Arguments come first (x+2=Y SOLVEVX) but in algebraic, the command comes first, followed by the arguments inside a parenthesis and arguments separeted by a comma. --> SOLVEVX(x+2=y) Thats about it, if you need any help or more detail reply here, ill give u my email then.

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