HP Forum Archive 10

[ Return to Index | Top of Index ]

OT: Does anyone have the Commodore S61 manual? Message #1 Posted by Gene on 30 Jan 2003, 9:27 p.m. Wild goose chase, but does anyone happen to have the Commodore S61 specialized statistics calculator manual scanned in PDF? Failing that (and I would not expect one to have it), does anyone have an explanation for how to use some of the special statistics functions, such as POISS, Chi-squared, etc.? I've been playing with mine and can't figure it out. ? Gene

Re: OT: Does anyone have the Commodore S61 manual? Message #2 Posted by Michel Beaulieu on 30 Jan 2003, 9:33 p.m., in response to message #1 by Gene I have a Comodore SR-9190R and manual with poisson function it, Gauss and a lot of other function that even the majority of modern calculator don't have. But you luck end ther : i can scan the pages you want but it's a French manual. If you are interest, just tell me the function you want an i'll scan them in my manual.

Re: OT: Does anyone have the Commodore S61 manual? Message #3 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 31 Jan 2003, 4:34 p.m., in response to message #2 by Michel Beaulieu I guess you bought yours from the same guy in Canada as me! He sent me the photocopied English manual, but maybe the experience has been good for your French...

Re: OT: Does anyone have the Commodore S61 manual? Message #4 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 31 Jan 2003, 4:32 p.m., in response to message #1 by Gene Hi, I have a Commodore SR9190R which has Poisson, Binomial and Gauss functions. I have a photocopy of the manual in English and a French original. Send me an email and I will send you a scan of the relevent pages. Apologies to HP Forum for contaminating you with Commodore! Gordon

Re: OT: While we are asking... Message #5 Posted by Christof on 31 Jan 2003, 6:46 p.m., in response to message #4 by Gordon Dyer Anyone have a manual for a canon F-700 programmable?

Re: OT: Does anyone have the Commodore S61 manual? Message #6 Posted by Frank on 5 Feb 2003, 10:36 a.m., in response to message #1 by Gene Gene, I have a Commodore M-55 manual and calculator, bought new in 1977, same series, this is a mathematician with many of the same stat and distribution functions. Let me know what you need

Re: OT: Does anyone have the Commodore S61 manual? Message #7 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 8 Feb 2003, 1:47 p.m., in response to message #6 by Frank Hi, is there any chance of making a scan of the M-55 manual available? I would like a copy. Thanks, Gordon.

I have the M55 manual Message #8 Posted by Gene on 8 Feb 2003, 5:04 p.m., in response to message #7 by Gordon Dyer Be glad to loan it to you if you could turn it into a PDF. :-) Of course, I'd LOVE to find anyone with an S61 manual to scan. Want to borrow my M55 manual? (Sadly, I have the manual but NOT the calculator!)

Link to pic of Commodore S61 Message #9 Posted by Gene on 6 Feb 2003, 8:38 p.m., in response to message #1 by Gene Commodore S61 picture I still remember in the late 1970s when this calculator was introduced. I was amazed it had THIS many statistical functions pre-programmed! My questions: Row 2 from top: The first key from the left is to calculate the F-distribution or the Hypergeometric distribution. What are the v1 and v2 keys for? What are they used to input? Then there is the 4th key from the left is labeled tstat and Zstat. What are these for? Row 3 from the top: The first key is for a Chi-squared fit? What is that for? Then there are two keys labeled Oi and Ei. What are these? Then there is the t DEP and t IND. I imagine those are for calculating the t-values for the dependent and independent variables of a linear regression, which would go along with the remainder of the keys on this row which are regression related. Row 4 from the top: First key does permutations and combinations. 2nd key does Binomial and Poisson distributions. Then there is the key for V and k. K is used to enter values for the binomial calculation (so is the p key next to it), but what is the v key for? The remainder of the keys on this row are regression related. Row 5 from the top: The first key calculates the cumulative normal distribution given a Z value. The shift of this key does the inverse. The next key calculates the normal distribution area under the interval of +Z and -Z. The shift of this key does the inverse, i.e., given an area under the curve, it returns the Z forming the interval. The next key is for the Chi-squared distribution and the shift is for a t-distribution (which requires the number of degrees of freedom, but where is that entered?) Row 7 from the top: The factorial key has the gamma function as a shifted function

Just a question... Message #10 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 10 Feb 2003, 2:04 a.m., in response to message #9 by Gene Hi, Gene; I saw the picture and it brought me back to my University Classes. I remember someone showed me one Commodore, but it was not the S61, it was simpler and had fewer features. My question must be taken as made by someone that has no idea about how silly it may be, so forgive-me if it is indeed a silly question: are the [=] and [-] keys in their correct positions? I based my question in two facts: 1 - it seems more "natural" if the four functions are aligned in the same column; 2 - there is a [(] as the shifted function for [+] and its counterpart is positioned as the shifted function for [=]; wouldn't it be a natural choice having it as the shifted function for [-]? If [=] and [-] keys perform their related operations the way it is, please, just diregard this post. Cheers.

Re: Link to pic of Commodore S61 Message #11 Posted by Marc Brucker on 11 Feb 2003, 7:33 p.m., in response to message #9 by Gene Gene, I would think that the proximity of the Oi and Ei keys to the X-square key would mean that they are meant to key in Observed and Expected values in the goodness-of-fit (X-square) test. The "V" keys may signify the Greek letter "nu", but I am not sure about them. I really like your calculator! Sincerely, Marc Brucker.

[ Return to Index | Top of Index ]

Go back to the main exhibit hall