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Will freezing temps hurt my calcs?
Message #1 Posted by erik on 21 Jan 2003, 8:13 a.m.

I've got to store my calcs for a while and am thinking about that attic. only, right now, it's freezing up there, if not a few degrees below freezing. is that going to cause me any problems?

      
Re: Will freezing temps hurt my calcs?
Message #2 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 21 Jan 2003, 9:27 a.m.,
in response to message #1 by erik

Hi, Erik;

I am almost sure all of the HP calculator's manuals specify storage and operating temperature ranges. Try to check for them, I am sure the old ones came with this information. I have the HP25 Manual in hands and in page 106 it specifies 32ºF to 113ºF (0ºC to 45ºC) for operation and -40ºF to 131ºF (-40º to 55ºC) for storage. Also, for the HP48, page A-4 in the User's Guide, we have the same range for operation and -4ºF to 149ºF (-20º to 65ºC) for storage.

You can't LITERALY go to h... with them, but you may surely store them in below 0ºC without trouble...

Hope it helps. Sorry for the kidding...

Cheers.

            
Re: Will freezing temps hurt my calcs?
Message #3 Posted by Randy Sloyer on 21 Jan 2003, 9:47 a.m.,
in response to message #2 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

At the risk of stating the obvious, while the calculators can take the extremes for storage, the batteries surely will not. Never store them with batteries installed, no matter what the battery type is.

                  
Re: Will freezing temps hurt my calcs?
Message #4 Posted by Ellis Easley on 21 Jan 2003, 11:14 a.m.,
in response to message #3 by Randy Sloyer

Put the calculators in ziplock plastic bags to prevent humidity from condensing on them when the temperature cycles. If you store the boxes and accessories with them, put the whole package in a large ziplock bag.

                        
Re: Will freezing temps hurt my calcs?
Message #5 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 21 Jan 2003, 11:17 a.m.,
in response to message #4 by Ellis Easley

Hi;

better yet, keep a dehydrating gell pack inside the ziplock bag, too. Just in case.

Cheers.

                              
Re: Will freezing temps hurt my calcs?
Message #6 Posted by Michael Meyer on 21 Jan 2003, 2:12 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

Be careful, though, storing the HP-41. This model, (both full and half nut's) are especially susceptible to damage by freezing.

This is often referred to as, "freezing your nuts."

(Sorry... couldn't resist. Just kidding.)

                                    
You are an insane man...
Message #7 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 21 Jan 2003, 2:30 p.m.,
in response to message #6 by Michael Meyer

;-) Just kidding... I hope.

                                          
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #8 Posted by R Lion on 21 Jan 2003, 3:31 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

Hi Luiz: I'm still laughing of your frozen nuts :-D...

Well... seriously: I know the "blacknut" version of the 41, but what is "half nut" and "full nut"?

Thanks in advance and excuse my 41 ignorance

Raul

                                                
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #9 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 21 Jan 2003, 4:23 p.m.,
in response to message #8 by R Lion

Hi;

I had a look at the Museum pages and I did not find the page were the differences are pointed-out. Externally you just have a different (some think it's a worst) key feeling in the newer halfnuts, and their LCD has rounded corners instead of the sharp-edged ones found in the fullnuts (earlier). Internaly the HW was reduced such the halfnuts do not have an extra mainboard as the earlier fullnuts, and you will find one PQPF-type mainprocessor directly soldered in the keyboard (inner face). RAM/ROM/Display drier are built in the LCD assy, and for the CX, and extra PCB will hold time and X-functions chips.

Despite these external and internal differences, both types are fully compatible with eachother.

Cheers.

                                                      
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #10 Posted by Renato on 21 Jan 2003, 4:30 p.m.,
in response to message #9 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

Luiz, if I understand this american slang,"nuts" in this case could be translated as "bagos", or "bolas"...

                                                            
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #11 Posted by R Lion on 21 Jan 2003, 4:59 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by Renato

In spanish (not very polite) "huevos" (eggs)

Raul :-)

                                                                  
The things one learns from this web site... :-)
Message #12 Posted by Tom (UK) on 22 Jan 2003, 7:10 a.m.,
in response to message #11 by R Lion

The things one learns from this web site... :-)

                                                                  
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #13 Posted by David Smith on 22 Jan 2003, 6:17 p.m.,
in response to message #11 by R Lion

Can't forget them cojones either...

                                                            
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #14 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) on 21 Jan 2003, 5:25 p.m.,
in response to message #10 by Renato

Yes; it's the same!

I hope Dave does not cut us off...

                                                      
Re: You are an insane man...
Message #15 Posted by R Lion on 21 Jan 2003, 5:01 p.m.,
in response to message #9 by Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil)

Thanks Luiz: I saw those screen differences sometime ago...

raul


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