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50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #1 Posted by Tony David Potter on 3 Dec 2002, 9:41 p.m.

...and free shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1942395385

Perfect for that holiday season.

--Tony David

      
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #2 Posted by Glen Kilpatrick on 4 Dec 2002, 1:25 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Tony David Potter

This looks like only 10% off list, and they MUST be the new Chinese ones. This doesn't look like any kind of deal at all (and I suspect I'm not the only one drawing this conclusion, as there are no bids for it so far...).

      
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #3 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 4 Dec 2002, 7:31 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Tony David Potter

Selling at $63.00 per unit.
Av. eBay selling price for last 30 units has been $64.04 !! Seems like a lot of effort to make $1 per unit, IF the price holds.
Hasn't everyone who wants one already got a 12C ?? I have an old one in A1 condition, but are the new Chinese ones as good on quality and keyboard feel?

            
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #4 Posted by Pyerre L on 4 Dec 2002, 8:01 p.m.,
in response to message #3 by Gordon Dyer

Well, I have one s/n CN1250xxxx. Dad also has one made in sept,1981 ....and he's laughing about mine.

Means it all,

Pyerre :-(

                  
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #5 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 4 Dec 2002, 8:20 p.m.,
in response to message #4 by Pyerre L

Tell me more about the differences in quality and keyboard feel?
Do you agreee with your dad? My only experience of old and new was with 10B calcs and I didn't like the new one... keys didn't have a nice positive click and the finish on the bezel was poor, also the colour of the key markings was yuk!

                        
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #6 Posted by Pyerre L. on 4 Dec 2002, 9:39 p.m.,
in response to message #5 by Gordon Dyer

Hi,

Talking about mine :

- The blue labels printed on the keys were dark and are almost illegible because they're painted on a dull surface not sharply stood out on the shiny surface like on the older units. - The bezel does not have the same rich black color. - The keys had none of the snappy feel like on dad's 12C and give multiple inputs for the same keystroke. - The body is not really aligned on the table surface and it rocks while hitting fingers on it.

I don't know how to explain it well in a good english way but my new HP-12C turns out to be such a $50 sorry piece of work.

He's still laughing about me & got my 10C that pleased him too. Sniff!

Pyerre

                              
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #7 Posted by Gordon Dyer on 4 Dec 2002, 10:17 p.m.,
in response to message #6 by Pyerre L.

I agree with everything you say!
It aligns exactly with my experience of the newer 10B, so I found an older 10B and bought that...much better!
So I suggest you look out for an older 12C and invest, you can sell seel your new one.

                                    
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #8 Posted by Pyerre L. on 5 Dec 2002, 2:51 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Gordon Dyer

Hi,

Have you ever seen & got in touch with the new HP-10BII ? Our 10B & 12C still be far better than those. Great consolations anyway.

IMHO though !

Pyerre

                                          
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #9 Posted by Raymond Hellstern on 6 Dec 2002, 4:33 a.m.,
in response to message #8 by Pyerre L.

Hi,

sorry to invade in your conversation;-)

I've (amongst many others) a 10BII. My experiences in short:

It looks what it is: cheap (only the price is too high).

The front finish only looks somewhat nice if you view it at a specific angle; from all other views you'll see the waves on the surface of the housing. The keyboard legend colors could have been more ergonomic, but that's a problem with *all* ACO calculators, the designers are simply color-blind (Reference: 32II,49G...)

The 10BII keys have tactile feedback, more than you would want to. It makes a loud 'knack' when you press a key, and you have to press the key with heavy force. The force needed to press a key is comparable to that needed on a brand new HP-34C, which is very much compared to the HP-41's keys.

However, the 10BII occasionally looses key strokes, and sometimes displays more digits than I have entered...

The best (joke) of it all: The housing edges are surrounded by a rubber frame, so the calc won't slide off your hands. BUT: The back case of the 10BII is nearly plane, and the battery door looks some parts of a millimeter out the plane, and the very small (like hamster shit) rubber feet don't even have contact to the desk surface due to that outstanding batt door!

Conclusion: The calc is full of rubber, but vanishes if you try to use it on a desk. Good to have a litter can nearby.

The 10BII is the worst HP/ACO calc, the 6S, 9g, 9s don't count here, because they're only relabelled calcs from other brands.

Regards,

Raymond

(Sorry for my bad english, I'm just somewhat tired)

                                                
Re: 50 HP-12C - only $3150.00 on ebay :P
Message #10 Posted by Pyerre on 6 Dec 2002, 10:39 a.m.,
in response to message #9 by Raymond Hellstern

Agree,

Too much expensive ($49.99 CAD + taxes) for a such poor quality calculator made (by HP?). Got one too and then sent it back to store for the full credit.

Pyerre

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