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Calculator Simulations for Palm Message #1 Posted by Renato on 14 Sept 2002, 4:20 a.m. Some Palm-OS RPN calculators are available. 1. HP-12C simulator http://www.kktechnologies.com/kk-12c.html 2. HP-41CX emulator http://www.berndabel.de/products/coconut/index.html 3. HP-41CV emulator with roms http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=34175820020914001146&prodID=40123 4. Scientific Programmable, no specific model, but a true RPN http://www.creativecreek.com/mathupro.html 5. HP-16C simulation http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=34175820&prodID=40784

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm Message #2 Posted by Glen Kilpatrick on 14 Sept 2002, 7:52 a.m., in response to message #1 by Renato THANK YOU! I'm hoping to get a used, low-end Palm from a friend, will investigate these.

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm Message #3 Posted by Bill Hemphill on 14 Sept 2002, 11:13 a.m., in response to message #1 by Renato I am a registered user of both of the HP-41 Palm emulators. They both work great. The nice thing is I always have my Sony Clie with me and it gives me full access to the HP-41. Bill Hemphill

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm Message #4 Posted by Christof (Davis, CA) on 14 Sept 2002, 8:58 p.m., in response to message #1 by Renato I've seen this come up now and then and I wonder why people don't often mention RPN (the calculator)? Nth lab (Russ Webb) makes it, and it's programmable, usable, has a easy to view stack, and generally rocks http://www.nthlab.com/ It also has several function sets available via: http://www.mew3.com/mew3/palm/rpn/ there's another one titled RPN here, it's nice but not the same beastie: http://seul.org/~bergo/palm/rpn/ now, why can't I find something like this for my jornada 720?!?! (H/PC is != P/PC and most wince calc software is P/PC *only*) -Christof

RPN calc for H/PC Message #5 Posted by Renato on 15 Sept 2002, 3:18 a.m., in response to message #4 by Christof (Davis, CA) Have you tried http://www.applian.com/hpc/CoolCalc/ ? Renato

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm - HP-Likeness Message #6 Posted by Renato on 15 Sept 2002, 1:37 a.m., in response to message #1 by Renato My goal with this thread is to gather simulations that are HP-like. So here is the collection, with my own HP-Likeness indication. Software authors take note: HP-Likeness is important! 1. HP-12C simulator http://www.kktechnologies.com/kk-12c.html Very faithful HP-12C simulation, including programming. Very clever and functional solution for simulating the voyager keyboard on the palm screen. HP-likeness: 8 out of 10 2. HP-41CX emulator http://www.berndabel.de/products/coconut/index.html Very faithful HP-41CX emulation (uses HP-41CX ROM) - much better on color. HP-likeness: 9 out of 10. 3. HP-41CV emulator with roms http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=34175820020914001146&prodID=40123 Not as faithful as coconut, but the author is working on it. Very interesting ROM modules management. HP-Likeness: 7 out of 10 4. Scientific Programmable, no specific model, but a true RPN http://www.creativecreek.com/mathupro.html Does not emulate a real HP model, but creates a surprising level of likeness. Very interesting functionalities. HP-Likeness: 8 out of 10. 5. HP-16C simulation http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=34175820&prodID=40784 Complete (as far as I know) functional simulation of 16c, but a keyboard like KK-12C would improve HP-likeness very much. HP-Likeness: 7 out of 10. 6. Other RPN calcs There are at least 6 other RPN, with very good functionality as a RPN calc for palm. As HP-likeness is below 5, I donīt list them here.

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm - HP-Likeness Message #7 Posted by Glen Kilpatrick on 15 Sept 2002, 10:52 a.m., in response to message #6 by Renato I wonder if there should be pointers for these in MoHPC. Nothing is quite so pleasing as those Java emulations (25 & 35), but these would seem to extend the range of choices considerably.

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm - HP-Likeness Message #8 Posted by Renato on 15 Sept 2002, 11:12 a.m., in response to message #7 by Glen Kilpatrick MOHPC is THE place for simulator authors to show their work. Simulations on a color Palm or a P/PC are currently very pleasant. With some work, these will be more satisfying than the Java simulations. Why ? Because PC simulation is not portable.

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm - HP-Likeness Message #9 Posted by Christof (Davis, CA) on 15 Sept 2002, 11:25 a.m., in response to message #8 by Renato I'm not sure I follow you. the only emulator I can currently use on my pda is a java based one. (not counting omnisolve, but omnisolve lacks a lot) So, I'm finding Java to be quite portable, thanks :) and for the java ones with source code available, it is perhaps possible that I will yet be able to modify them to work properly with the screen dimensions of my h/pc

Re: Calculator Simulations for Palm - HP-Likeness Message #10 Posted by Renato on 15 Sept 2002, 11:36 a.m., in response to message #9 by Christof (Davis, CA) Oops, sorry for my lack of precision about portability. Java is a portable language. Palm, H/PC and P/PC are portable devices. A Java simulation on a pocket device is twice portable ;-)))

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