|Another opinion: [Re: I have to say this (yet) one more time]|
Message #8 Posted by Raymond Hellstern (Germany) on 1 Aug 2002, 2:35 p.m.,
in response to message #7 by Mike
>You say:"he's obviously a speculator buying up a lot of
>stuff to resell, presumably for a profit, later"
>He has been buying items for years. Have you ever seen him
>sell anything. He pays top dollar for a lot of items. I
>suspect he is more of a collector than you think.
>You say: For example, I was outbid by him on an 82143A
>printer...and he also won the other auction for that model
>printer. So he's got two of these printers.
>Two? :-) He probably had 20. I have seen him buy lots of
>15 calculators. He has bought at least three 9100s that
>I've seen. What's the big deal?
So I suppose he wants to build his house out of printers and calcs instead of bricks.
It's hard to believe that he doesn't buy big packages of the same model w/o wanting to refinance the ones he keeps by selling the others.
And buying big packs reduces the cost of the individual item in many cases, so the word 'top dollar' becomes relative here.
Sniping is legitim, of course.
But sometimes it just kills the fun participating at an auction for many other people.
And IMHO it doesn't show too much style;-)
Two weeks ago I was bidding on an USB keyboard,
of which the seller had about ten to sell.
A minute before closing they all were between $5 and $7.50 .
I had only one bid on one of the keyboards with $11 as my maximum, but I watched the others.
TWO seconds before bid closing, 'my' kbd was at $8, some idiot sniped me,
and forced me to bid one another one of those keyboards.
I got this other kbd for $8, which was nearly the lowest final price of all those kbds, and I couldn't resist and ROTFL, because that sniper had to pay the highest price of all, about $12...
Ok, that's not much money overall, but in this case he was the loser.
I made similar experiences when bidding on HP items.
>Bidding late, does one thing, it keeps the price on
>auctions low. I 100% guarantee you that if he bid early,
>he would still have bid more than you, unless you bid more
>than the item was worth. See... that is what raises the
That's one option.
I think you know the other option, too:
Buying big amounts of units for relatively low prices per unit, then selling them (resp. auctioning them) individually, which usually leads to higher prices, because people think they bid on rare items.
Nearly everyone here knows that there are very few items which are really rare, most of the HP calcs and accesories were made in big quantities.
Even prototypes and pre-series calcs were made several to hundreds per model.