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Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #1 Posted by Larry on 9 Dec 2001, 3:56 p.m. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1307751669

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #2 Posted by Ian Primus on 9 Dec 2001, 5:29 p.m., in response to message #1 by Larry Not only was the photo copied, but most of the text as well. They didn't even happen to mention that the photo wasn't the actual calculator for sale. Ian Primus ian_primus@yahoo.com

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #3 Posted by Iqbal on 9 Dec 2001, 5:45 p.m., in response to message #2 by Ian Primus And let's not overlook his auction for an 11C: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1307749090

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #4 Posted by Wayne Brown on 10 Dec 2001, 6:27 a.m., in response to message #3 by Iqbal Both of these auctions are using URL pointers to pictures on the Museum site. Hey Dave, sounds like it's time for the ol' picture switcheroo again! (I loved the one you did with the cheap four-banger with the masking tape logo.)

So, not only did they steal the photo... Message #5 Posted by Mike on 10 Dec 2001, 11:27 a.m., in response to message #4 by Wayne Brown they are stealing bandwidth also.

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #6 Posted by Tom UK on 10 Dec 2001, 3:43 p.m., in response to message #4 by Wayne Brown Yep, I'd like to see that done again. Apart from the funny side the prices people get by duping the bidder with a photo of a mint calculator just pushes those prices up and up. It isn't even good for ebay - but he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #7 Posted by Ian Primus on 10 Dec 2001, 5:22 p.m., in response to message #4 by Wayne Brown I for one would love to see this done. I mean, the least he could have done would be to ask permission to use the picture, or copy it to his own site, or even to mention in his description that the picture is, in fact, NOT the calculator for sale. Either a cheap little "ISTEP Wafer" calculator (That's what I call them, they are little Casio junk calculators that they gave us for ISTEP tests. They break if you look at them funny.) Or, if you happen to have a 12c that is disassembled/broken/missing things such as, for example, 5 keys and the screen, that would be interesting as well. Or, perhaps, write in big letters across the picture "STOLEN FROM HPMUSEUM.COM" Ian Primus ian_primus@yahoo.com

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #8 Posted by Yani on 11 Dec 2001, 12:05 a.m., in response to message #7 by Ian Primus Reminds me of a funny story. A friend asked to borrow a book so I wrote following tag in the front; This book was stolen from J & L hancock... etc. I then haded it to him. He left it behind when he left. Could not take a joke. I am with you. If a small subtext was added to the picture such as you suggest it may make the sellers more honest.

*** READ THIS *** Message #9 Posted by Joe on 10 Dec 2001, 9:23 p.m., in response to message #3 by Iqbal I asked the seller, if this was the actual photo of his calculator. His reply was "yes it was." If he lies about it being his photo, I wonder what you get for your bid. Ask him yourself. His email is LBurns69@aol.com

Re: *** READ THIS *** Message #10 Posted by Ian Primus on 10 Dec 2001, 10:00 p.m., in response to message #9 by Joe Hmm. It would seem that there are those out there that go to great lengths to be dishonest. He should have replied with something to the effect of "No, I stole it from the good folks at hpmuseum.com without so much as a credit or thanks on my auction description." Ian Primus ian_primus@yahoo.com

Thanks everyone! Message #11 Posted by Dave Hicks on 11 Dec 2001, 12:02 a.m., in response to message #9 by Joe I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt so I emailed him and he promised that he would properly describe the pictures by tomorrow afternoon. (He said that his wife posted those auctions.) I told him that would be fine but I hadn't seen Joe's follow-up. Interesting... I did prepare a new picture just in case. Perhaps for a future auction :-)

Possible way out... Message #12 Posted by Someone else on 11 Dec 2001, 7:20 a.m., in response to message #9 by Joe Simple, put in a bid for $1000 or some other ammount. Then refuse to buy because the photo is fake. If he sends negative feedback simply return the 'complement' saying this is a fraud. Seller then looses face and the sale - just what he deserves.

Re: Possible way out... Message #13 Posted by thibaut.be on 11 Dec 2001, 10:03 a.m., in response to message #12 by Someone else Nobody wants a negative feedback - justified or not. I wouldn't risk that actually... I alrerady had one by a ***^$$$ç&@ who has been after several other complaints cancelled by ebay and another one by mistake, but still my profile shows up 2 undeserved neg feedbacks that are like a bad spot on my face and there's nothing on earth I can do to have them removed...

Re: Possible way out... Message #14 Posted by Someone else on 11 Dec 2001, 12:34 p.m., in response to message #13 by thibaut.be Who said anything about using your normal account...

Re: Possible way out... Message #15 Posted by Freakin' Whiner on 11 Dec 2001, 2:19 p.m., in response to message #14 by Someone else I never do ...

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay Message #16 Posted by Randy Smith on 13 Dec 2001, 3:45 a.m., in response to message #1 by Larry Just looked again, still no credit to the Museum.

Re: Another Museum Photo on eBay---DO IT DAVE! Message #17 Posted by W. Bruce Maguire II on 13 Dec 2001, 12:40 p.m., in response to message #16 by Randy Smith I just looked too, and no credit. You know that he's not going to do anything. I'm sure he figures he can skate-by for a few days, and then it doesn't matter anymore! Some suckers will have purchased the machines! Dave: PLEEEEEAAAASE do the photo-switch! I never got to see the incident mentioned by others... Haven't you given him long enough? IT'S ENTERTAINMENT TIME!! Bruce.

I think I should give him the benefit of the doubt... Message #18 Posted by Dave Hicks on 13 Dec 2001, 1:21 p.m., in response to message #17 by W. Bruce Maguire II because he has updated one of the two auctions mentioned in this thread. I've sent him an email asking him to update the other one as well. I try to keep things friendly even when people steal my pictures, but if he doesn't fix it by tomorrow, something amusing could still happen :-)

Re: I think I should give him the benefit of the doubt... Message #19 Posted by Ron Ross on 14 Dec 2001, 9:00 a.m., in response to message #18 by Dave Hicks Dave, it is a 12c that he hasn't bothered to update. That is no big deal. If your going to act, you should confuse the two and nail his 11c auction with the switch. Such an honest mistake for his honest oversight. Just my humble opinion.

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