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Re: HP 42S emulation on a 48GX?
Message #1 Posted by Thomas Falk on 11 Aug 2001, 11:41 a.m.

I'm hope I'm not making too many enemies with this question.

I'm alway wondering why the HP42s is so much higher rated than the HP48. Actually I have both of them and I adore the 42 for its small size. But for programming I prefer the HP48 because of its greater capabilities and easyness of programming.

You can even program it by keys like the HP42s if you ignore that you have to press << before starting to key in a sequence.

So, my question is: What is it: Just the size or is the there something I'm missing? Maybe its just the difficulty to adapt to some new style? What would be the benefits of an emulation of the HP42 on the 48?

      
Re: HP 42S emulation on a 48GX?
Message #2 Posted by Raymond Hellstern on 11 Aug 2001, 6:24 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Thomas Falk

Hi,

I think it's not only the size. Maybe it's the power/size ratio. With the 48 series you can do much more things, graphical evaluations, etc.

But in my experience many people just need a four-banger, and very few people really *need* the graphical and symbolic capabilities of the 48 series.

Don't get me wrong. I love my 48GX, and I've written many programs for it in the last (more than) 11 years (search hpcalc.org for 'Hellstern'), but for daily work as a pro-programmer I prefer my 15C, because it is even smaller than my 42S, has a better display, more functions than I need, and the batteries last for nearly ten years. Ok, the display of a 15C is numeric only, but it is ways better readable than the display of the 42S and the 48 series.

There exist at least 2 'emulators' for an HP-41 for the HP-48 series. The one from HrastProgrammer runs a ROM image, so it emulates the CPU. The other one, which was sold by HP, is more like a HP-41 user interface emulation, and was available on a ROM card for the 48SX. There exists a version of the libraries for the 48GX,and it's nice to see all 4 levels of the stack (+ LastX), and the goal was to make it easier to convert former 41 series users to the 48 series, but in the long run it's easier to use the 48 built-in user interface on the 48, and the 41 (or 42S) on real hardware (IMHO;-)

Raymond

            
Re: HP 42S emulation on a 48GX?
Message #3 Posted by Bill on 11 Aug 2001, 9:15 p.m.,
in response to message #2 by Raymond Hellstern

I couldn’t agree more! I replaced my HP42S with a HP48G+ and I like it a lot but… the transition has been painful. I have no doubt the 48 is dramatically more powerful but I miss the “follow me” programming of the 42. In addition, I don’t want to be so narrow minded that in the process of duplicating my old 42 programs, I miss out on the extra capabilities of the 48. I had a neat program on my 42 that would take the statistical data the 42 calculated and give me a cpk value, even better it was a soft key that only required one touch. I found a great SPC program for the 48 but is far more complicated and doesn’t give me cpk.

Good luck

Bill

      
Re: HP 42S emulation on a 48GX?
Message #4 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. on 11 Aug 2001, 9:48 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Thomas Falk

I think this is the last place to make enemies... We all talk about technology, love, passion and ... say, taste. And I believe (now it's my turn trying not to make enemies) that's what is about all of it. Passion.

Many of us would love having a multi-purpose calculator, that would turn it's shape and functionality as we need a 42, a 41, a 15, a 48... and so. Daring dream... So, many of us colle

      
Re: HP 42S emulation on a 48GX?
Message #5 Posted by Vieira, Luiz C. on 11 Aug 2001, 9:48 p.m.,
in response to message #1 by Thomas Falk

I think this is the last place to make enemies... We all talk about technology, love, passion and ... say, taste. And I believe (now it's my turn trying not to make enemies) that's what is about all of it. Passion.

Many of us would love having a multi-purpose calculator, that would turn it's shape and functionality as we need a 42, a 41, a 15, a 48... and so. Daring dream... So, many of us collect these pieces of art we admire and technology we need as tools.

Having one or another is a matter of needing; using one or another is a matter of passion.

And we all have both feelings. Welcome you beginners. There is a lot to learn and feel in here...


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