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The DM41L is here!
07-21-2016, 12:12 PM
Post: #41
RE: The DM41L is here!
(07-20-2016 09:15 PM)emece67 Wrote:  Does it emulate a 41C, CV or CX?

I respond myself: according to the SwissMicros site, it emulates a 41CX, time module included.

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08-07-2016, 05:40 PM
Post: #42
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Hello,
I just received my DM41L and I'm delighted , it's a gem ;-)
The build quality is excellent and the keyboard provides a good typing comfort . The key layout is very practical.
I think the font is too thin , maybe Michael could offer us a firmware with a bolder font ? ;-)
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08-08-2016, 01:41 AM
Post: #43
RE: The DM41L is here!
(07-20-2016 10:25 AM)Howard Owen Wrote:  
(07-19-2016 10:50 PM)JohnHancock Wrote:  Is it too much to ask if the DM41L supports synthetic programing?

Yes it does - sort of. You can create the byte grabber using the standard method, I keyed in LB using it as well, but it had some problems running. I might have keyed it incorrectly, but I did it multiple times. I don't recall the exact profile of the problem, but I got multiple MEMORY LOST conditions playing with it. Those could also be due to operator error, but maybe not. Crashes are more tolerable on this machine because you can load and save the calculator state easily over USB.

Yes, I have done more research and discovered the answer but your experience is very interesting. Thanks for the reply. I have been using the i412CX and love it. I have the PPC ROM installed and that makes it a breeze.

This is definitely on my wish list. Also have to dig my 41s out of storage. At least one is in desperate need of repair and the card reader also needs a new roller.

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02-15-2018, 06:22 AM
Post: #44
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It may still be a month to my 41st birthday, but the DM 41L has arrived at my house. I am very happy with the keyboard and the display. Kudos to Swiss Micros.
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02-15-2018, 09:58 AM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2018 09:59 AM by grsbanks.)
Post: #45
RE: The DM41L is here!
(02-15-2018 06:22 AM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  It may still be a month to my 41st birthday, but the DM 41L has arrived at my house. I am very happy with the keyboard and the display. Kudos to Swiss Micros.

Make sure you have firmware V25 on it. We did some internal reorganisation of the firmware and managed to cram a virtual X-Mem module into its RAM, giving you a total of 362 X-Mem registers.

https://forum.swissmicros.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=416
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02-15-2018, 04:39 PM
Post: #46
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(02-15-2018 09:58 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 06:22 AM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  It may still be a month to my 41st birthday, but the DM 41L has arrived at my house. I am very happy with the keyboard and the display. Kudos to Swiss Micros.

Make sure you have firmware V25 on it. We did some internal reorganisation of the firmware and managed to cram a virtual X-Mem module into its RAM, giving you a total of 362 X-Mem registers.

https://forum.swissmicros.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=416

I just received mine yesterday, and the first thing I did this morning was upgrade the firmware from V24 to get the extra memory.
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02-17-2018, 03:41 AM
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I love the fact the DM41L comes with the time module, meaning it has the Days Between Dates (DDAYS) function. That makes me really happy!
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02-17-2018, 03:50 AM
Post: #48
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(02-15-2018 04:39 PM)mwthomasjr Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 09:58 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  Make sure you have firmware V25 on it. We did some internal reorganisation of the firmware and managed to cram a virtual X-Mem module into its RAM, giving you a total of 362 X-Mem registers.

https://forum.swissmicros.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=416

I just received mine yesterday, and the first thing I did this morning was upgrade the firmware from V24 to get the extra memory.

How did you get the extra memory? I just upgraded to V25 and don't see the X-Mem module when I run CAT 2.
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02-17-2018, 04:48 AM
Post: #49
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(02-17-2018 03:50 AM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 04:39 PM)mwthomasjr Wrote:  I just received mine yesterday, and the first thing I did this morning was upgrade the firmware from V24 to get the extra memory.

How did you get the extra memory? I just upgraded to V25 and don't see the X-Mem module when I run CAT 2.

CAT 2 only shows plugged in ROM modules, not RAM modules. Try CAT 4 (the Extended Memory catalog) and see if it puts 362 on the stack.

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02-17-2018, 02:14 PM
Post: #50
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No, CAT 4 showed empty. I'm still at 319 registers altogether.
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02-17-2018, 02:26 PM
Post: #51
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(02-17-2018 02:14 PM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  No, CAT 4 showed empty. I'm still at 319 registers altogether.

Extended memory is totally separate from the normal main memory (319 is right). CAT-4 is a shortcut for the EMDIR command which lists all the files stored in Extended Memory, and then leaves the amount of free (available) Extended Memory on the stack (in X) so immediately after CAT-4, the number you see is the amount of X-Mem available. It should be 362.

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02-17-2018, 02:29 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2018 02:31 PM by Joe Horn.)
Post: #52
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(02-17-2018 02:14 PM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  No, CAT 4 showed empty. I'm still at 319 registers altogether.

Yes, CAT 4 shows a DIR EMPTY message, but after clearing that message (e.g. by a backspace) what number is left on the stack? That's the number of Extended Memory registers you have. The 319 registers of memory that you have are main memory, not extended memory.

EDIT: Oops, Bob, you beat me to it. Smile

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02-17-2018, 06:36 PM
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(02-17-2018 02:26 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  Extended memory is totally separate from the normal main memory (319 is right). CAT-4 is a shortcut for the EMDIR command which lists all the files stored in Extended Memory, and then leaves the amount of free (available) Extended Memory on the stack (in X) so immediately after CAT-4, the number you see is the amount of X-Mem available. It should be 362.

Alternatively, run EMROOM and it skips straight to the part where it returns the number of free X-Mem registers in X.

NB: This works on the 41CX and on the DM41(L), not on the 41C or CV with X-Func module.
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02-19-2018, 01:38 PM (This post was last modified: 02-19-2018 01:40 PM by Eddie W. Shore.)
Post: #54
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I verified that I have 362 registers after backspacing (CAT 4). Thanks everyone!

Now I will need to learn how to access them. I spent some time programming the DM 41L and started keeping a record of my programs on an index card booklet.

If anyone asks, yes, I definitely recommend the DM 41L (if you want the smaller calculator, the DM 41)! It's a high quality calculator.
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02-19-2018, 01:40 PM (This post was last modified: 02-19-2018 01:43 PM by grsbanks.)
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RE: The DM41L is here!
(02-19-2018 01:38 PM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  Now I will need to learn how to access them. I spent some time programming the DM 41L and started keeping a record of my programs on an index card booklet.

There's a manual for the X-Func module on the MoHPC memory stick. That will get you started at least. Anything else, give us a shout.

EDIT: It's not from the MoHPC memory stick that I got my copy so I'll make it available to you here: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/xferp...X-Func.pdf
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02-19-2018, 02:39 PM
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(02-19-2018 01:40 PM)grsbanks Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 01:38 PM)Eddie W. Shore Wrote:  Now I will need to learn how to access them. I spent some time programming the DM 41L and started keeping a record of my programs on an index card booklet.

There's a manual for the X-Func module on the MoHPC memory stick. That will get you started at least. Anything else, give us a shout.

EDIT: It's not from the MoHPC memory stick that I got my copy so I'll make it available to you here: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/xferp...X-Func.pdf

Thank you, much appreciated!
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02-19-2018, 03:22 PM
Post: #57
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Thanks!! I did not have a copy of this either.

These functions are also documented in the HP-41CX owner's and reference manuals, aren't they? Or am I making that up?
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02-19-2018, 03:24 PM
Post: #58
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(02-19-2018 03:22 PM)KF6GPE Wrote:  These functions are also documented in the HP-41CX owner's and reference manuals, aren't they? Or am I making that up?

They probably should be because the CX includes an X-Func module.
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02-19-2018, 03:56 PM
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(02-19-2018 03:24 PM)grsbanks Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 03:22 PM)KF6GPE Wrote:  These functions are also documented in the HP-41CX owner's and reference manuals, aren't they? Or am I making that up?

They probably should be because the CX includes an X-Func module.

And more...
Not all X-functions in a CX are included in an X-Functions module.

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02-19-2018, 03:58 PM
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(02-19-2018 03:56 PM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Not all X-functions in a CX are included in an X-Functions module.

Very true. EMROOM comes straight to mind.
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