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04-13-2015, 10:08 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2015 05:12 PM by salvomic.)
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Fourier transform
hi all,
a part of Fourier series coefficients (see here), there is a function in the Prime (or XCas) to get the Fourier Transform (not FFT) and its inverse?
See in Wolfram Alpha, for example...
If not, I need help to make a program.

We could calculate it via laplace() (Laplace transform), but we need the "bilateral laplace transform" and I don't know how to get it with the Prime...
F[f(t)] == bilateral-L[f(t)] where \( s=i\omega \)

Thank you
Salvo

EDIT:
the general equation should be
\[ \int_{-\infty }^{\infty }f(x) e^{-i\omega t}dt \]
but with Prime I get often "undef" and if I set "complex" in CAS I get "Limit: Max order reached or unable to make series expansion Error: Bad argument"

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04-14-2015, 08:44 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2015 05:50 PM by salvomic.)
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RE: Fourier transform
there is a way to solve an integral like that in the attached image and to avoid the errors that Terminal shows?

the integral is a tentative to get Fourier transform of \( \frac{1}{1+t^{2}} \), that's \( \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{-|\omega|} \) ...

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Also, there is a way to solve laplace(\( \frac{1}{1+t^{2}} \), t, s) without getting "Limit: Max order reached or unable to make series expansion Error: Bad argument" error?


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10-26-2015, 05:00 AM (This post was last modified: 10-26-2015 05:02 AM by Archanus.)
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RE: Fourier transform
Hey Salvomic Smile

Is there a way to implement Fourier Transform to HP Prime? Sad It has been a long time since nobody view this post :/

Electrical Engineering students need a lot this powerful Integral Transform Sad

Casio ClassPad (I & II) and TI Nspire CX CAS has Fourier Transform. I'm so sad to know anything about a new firmware that could provide almost all the tools for Students for System Information, Software & Electrical Engineering ...They prefer implement functions to Statistics Field and Geometry ):

And sorry for the complain but all HP users are anxious to see our HP Prime be even more powerful...
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10-26-2015, 07:27 AM
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RE: Fourier transform
(10-26-2015 05:00 AM)Archanus Wrote:  [color=#0000CD][b]Hey Salvomic Smile

Is there a way to implement Fourier Transform to HP Prime? Sad It has been a long time since nobody view this post :/

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hi Arcanus,
for "classic" Fourier transform, please, see this thread:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-294...+transform

I made a program to calculate the Fourier coefficient, but now Prime has inside the a_n, b_n c_n coefficients by itself, I don't remember other improvements about this argument...
Sure Parisse had wrote something about, maybe...

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10-26-2015, 02:17 PM
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RE: Fourier transform
(10-26-2015 05:00 AM)Archanus Wrote:  [color=#0000CD][b]Hey Salvomic Smile
Electrical Engineering students need a lot this powerful Integral Transform Sad

Please explain what is missing if you still think something is no there that should be. You have 3 different varieties of fourier transforms at this moment.

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10-26-2015, 06:39 PM
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RE: Fourier transform
(10-26-2015 07:27 AM)salvomic Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 05:00 AM)Archanus Wrote:  Hey Salvomic Smile

Is there a way to implement Fourier Transform to HP Prime? Sad It has been a long time since nobody view this post :/

...

hi Arcanus,
for "classic" Fourier transform, please, see this thread:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-294...+transform

I made a program to calculate the Fourier coefficient, but now Prime has inside the a_n, b_n c_n coefficients by itself, I don't remember other improvements about this argument...
Sure Parisse had wrote something about, maybe...

Salvo

[color=#0000CD][b]Hey Smile !

Yes dear friend, but I'm asking for Fourier Transform with Integrals
https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/f/6/...8eb1c6.png

You made a nice program to find the coeff Smile of the Fourier Series, Trigonometric & Exponential Smile
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10-26-2015, 06:44 PM
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RE: Fourier transform
(10-26-2015 06:39 PM)Archanus Wrote:  ...
You made a nice program to find the coeff Smile of the Fourier Series, Trigonometric & Exponential Smile [/b][/color]

thank you for compliments :-)
I hope also to have that, as I wrote in the original post.
Tim says well that the Prime has all the other forms of Fourier transform (that are sure more used) but this one would complete the series...

Salvo

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10-26-2015, 06:47 PM
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RE: Fourier transform
(10-26-2015 02:17 PM)Tim Wessman Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 05:00 AM)Archanus Wrote:  Hey Salvomic Smile
Electrical Engineering students need a lot this powerful Integral Transform Sad

Please explain what is missing if you still think something is no there that should be. You have 3 different varieties of fourier transforms at this moment.

[b][color=#0000CD]For Example implement Hilbert Transform, Spectrum Analysis, Multiple Variable Equation Solve (This feature is been requested a long time ago), more stable the firmware and the OS, Hartley transform, Two-sided Laplace transform, Abel transform, Discrete Plots, and many more wishes of the HP Users Smile
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10-26-2015, 07:01 PM
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RE: Fourier transform
(10-26-2015 06:44 PM)salvomic Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 06:39 PM)Archanus Wrote:  ...
You made a nice program to find the coeff Smile of the Fourier Series, Trigonometric & Exponential Smile [/b][/color]

thank you for compliments :-)
I hope also to have that, as I wrote in the original post.
Tim says well that the Prime has all the other forms of Fourier transform (that are sure more used) but this one would complete the series...

Salvo

You're welcome Smile

Hey Smile For the Coeff An that is: https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/c/2/...7b6ceb.png

In the HP Prime: fourier_bn(t,t,2,-1,1) ; in other words that function to implement in Fourier Series but the Period is from -1 to 1, so it's 2... I use bn because it's an odd function so a0 & an == 0

In Wolfram Mathematica and the HP Prime is a lot of different, please help Sad


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