HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
03-09-2015, 08:22 AM
Post: #1
 Gerald H Senior Member Posts: 1,522 Joined: May 2014
HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
I have a Derive version 2.5 application card (also works on 100 & 200LX).

Does anyone know if there were any updated cards with a later version number?
03-09-2015, 09:50 AM (This post was last modified: 03-09-2015 10:16 AM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
Post: #2
 Gerson W. Barbosa Senior Member Posts: 1,473 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme

P.S.: Not sure whether this was ever available as an application card for the HP-200LX though, so your question remains answered.
03-09-2015, 10:15 AM
Post: #3
 Gerald H Senior Member Posts: 1,522 Joined: May 2014
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 09:50 AM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  At the time of this review the latest version was 4.13.

But is that version on an application card?

I think 4.13 is a miss-print for 3.13.
03-09-2015, 10:26 AM (This post was last modified: 03-09-2015 10:29 AM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
Post: #4
 Gerson W. Barbosa Senior Member Posts: 1,473 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 10:15 AM)Gerald H Wrote:
(03-09-2015 09:50 AM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  At the time of this review the latest version was 4.13.

But is that version on an application card?

I think 4.13 is a miss-print for 3.13.

Very unlikely to ever have been available as an HP-200LX application card, I fear.

Quoting from the review:

"Speedwise, the new version seems about the same as the 3.x versions."

This might imply that one was version 4.13 indeed.
03-09-2015, 10:33 AM
Post: #5
 Gerald H Senior Member Posts: 1,522 Joined: May 2014
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
I tried, at the time, to keep up with developments in Derive & have a version 3.13 running on a 200LX, it won't work on the 95LX.

I guess versions later than 3.13 won't run on the 200LX - does anyone have a version 4.x loaded that functions correctly?

My original query was only concerning versions on application cards.
03-09-2015, 10:49 AM
Post: #6
 Didier Lachieze Senior Member Posts: 1,508 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 10:33 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  I guess versions later than 3.13 won't run on the 200LX - does anyone have a version 4.x loaded that functions correctly?
It seems from this archive that Derive 4.11 can run on the 200LX: DERIVE with Acrospin for 200LX 4.11.

(03-09-2015 10:33 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  My original query was only concerning versions on application cards.
Do you have a picture of your Derive application card?
03-09-2015, 11:44 AM
Post: #7
 Gerald H Senior Member Posts: 1,522 Joined: May 2014
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Here a picture of card:

03-09-2015, 12:36 PM
Post: #8
 Gerald H Senior Member Posts: 1,522 Joined: May 2014
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Thanks Didier, yes 4.11 works OK on 100LX.
03-09-2015, 12:40 PM
Post: #9
 Didier Lachieze Senior Member Posts: 1,508 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Thanks for the picture :-)
03-09-2015, 02:23 PM
Post: #10
 Gerson W. Barbosa Senior Member Posts: 1,473 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 12:36 PM)Gerald H Wrote:  Thanks Didier, yes 4.11 works OK on 100LX.

Also, of course, on my 200LX. Merci beaucoup, Didier!
02-09-2017, 07:35 PM
Post: #11
 Han Senior Member Posts: 1,882 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Were there any special drivers that you needed to install (for the screen, perhaps) in order for derive to run? I remember trying to get an old version (was it 5, perhaps?) to run and could not. I assumed that as long as you had a DOS environment (which the LX does, sort of) that it would just be a matter getting the appropriate display drivers. However, I never got it to work (due to lack of drivers.)

Graph 3D | QPI | SolveSys
02-10-2017, 02:01 AM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2017 02:04 AM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
Post: #12
 Gerson W. Barbosa Senior Member Posts: 1,473 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
I don't remember where I got it from, but this link says this Derive version is optimized for the HP-200's CGA monochrome display. Unfortunately the dark stain in the center of my 200LX grew to an extent that has made it unusable. I replaced the display once for the same reason.

Good luck!

Gerson.
02-10-2017, 02:06 AM
Post: #13
 Han Senior Member Posts: 1,882 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Thank you, Gerson! I'll give a whirl and see where it takes me :-)

Graph 3D | QPI | SolveSys
09-18-2017, 05:43 PM
Post: #14
 stefan.k Junior Member Posts: 1 Joined: Mar 2017
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 10:26 AM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:
(03-09-2015 10:15 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  I think 4.13 is a miss-print for 3.13.
This might imply that one was version 4.13 indeed.

I am a bit slow to join, but I have already spent quite sime time get hold of version 4.13. All I found was version 4.11, which is also the latest version mentioned by the derive user group. So 4.13 was either indeed a typo or very rare.

BTW, derive for dos also runs quite well in a dos box on my android tablet. I prefer it over the current alternatives (e.g. xcas, geogebra).
09-19-2017, 02:17 PM (This post was last modified: 11-04-2022 10:06 AM by Martin Hepperle.)
Post: #15
 Martin Hepperle Senior Member Posts: 333 Joined: May 2014
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Here is a Derive software timetable which I have composed:

Code:
Year   V   System 1979           muMath CP/M 1988   1.00       MS-DOS, implemented in MuLISP        1.02    MS-DOS        1.60    MS-DOS        1.61    MS-DOS 1990   2       MS-DOS        2.01    MS-DOS        2.08    MS-DOS 1992   2.50    MS-DOS   including HP 95LX Application Card        2.54    MS-DOS 1994   3.00    MS-DOS        3.02    MS-DOS        3.10     MS-DOS        3.11XM  expanded memory usage        3.12    MS-DOS        3.13    MS-DOS        3.14    MS-DOS 1996   4.00       MS-DOS, Windows        4.03    MS-DOS, Windows, not Windows XP        4.04    MS-DOS, Windows        4.11    MS-DOS, Windows  including HP 200LX Version        4.13    MS-DOS, Windows, not Windows 2000 2000   5.00   Windows        5.02    Windows, bug-fix update 2001   5.05    Windows 2002   5.06    Windows, bug-fix update 2003   6.00    Windows 2004   6.01    Windows 98, XP, 2000        6.10     Windows 98, XP, 2000 2007   Texas Instruments stops development and distribution
1999 takeover of Soft Warehouse by Texas Instruments
2000 TI-92

This table may contain errors, feel free to correct.

Derive User Group (German/English)
http://www.austromath.at/dug/index.htm

also at
https://archive.org/search.php?query=Derive

Martin
11-08-2021, 03:47 AM
Post: #16
 BINUBALL Member Posts: 121 Joined: Mar 2021
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Sorry for digging old thread, are there any person have copy of derive manual in pdf format?
I have found "Grand Tour of Derive" (1995), but haven't found about "The Derive User Manual" which mentioned on page 6.

S.Korean / 50G | fx-570EX | 200LX
11-08-2021, 03:26 PM
Post: #17
 Ross Barnes Junior Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2020
RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
In 2006 I tried buying a copy of Derive for DOS from Texas Instruments without success. I ended up purchasing a copy of Derive for DOS from bk teachware in Linz, Austria. I received version 4.11 with a printed manual.

Over the years I've looked for a pdf version of the DOS manual without success. The Derive User Group mentioned by Martin Hepperle is a great source of Derive for DOS information. The earlier newsletters (#1-#30) deal primarily with Derive for DOS.

The newsletters also mention web sites that no longer exist and as Martin Hepperle mentioned archive.org is a useful tool for retrieving them.

The link below also provides a short overview of Derive for DOS:
http://math.hawaii.edu/206L/basics_dos/d...iframe.php

Ross Barnes
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