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HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
03-09-2015, 08:22 AM
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HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
I have a Derive version 2.5 application card (also works on 100 & 200LX).

Does anyone know if there were any updated cards with a later version number?
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03-09-2015, 09:50 AM (This post was last modified: 03-09-2015 10:16 AM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
At the time of this review the latest version was 4.13.

P.S.: Not sure whether this was ever available as an application card for the HP-200LX though, so your question remains answered.
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03-09-2015, 10:15 AM
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 09:50 AM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  At the time of this review the latest version was 4.13.

But is that version on an application card?

I think 4.13 is a miss-print for 3.13.
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03-09-2015, 10:26 AM (This post was last modified: 03-09-2015 10:29 AM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 10:15 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 09:50 AM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  At the time of this review the latest version was 4.13.

But is that version on an application card?

I think 4.13 is a miss-print for 3.13.

Very unlikely to ever have been available as an HP-200LX application card, I fear.

Quoting from the review:

"Speedwise, the new version seems about the same as the 3.x versions."

This might imply that one was version 4.13 indeed.
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03-09-2015, 10:33 AM
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
I tried, at the time, to keep up with developments in Derive & have a version 3.13 running on a 200LX, it won't work on the 95LX.

I guess versions later than 3.13 won't run on the 200LX - does anyone have a version 4.x loaded that functions correctly?

My original query was only concerning versions on application cards.
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03-09-2015, 10:49 AM
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(03-09-2015 10:33 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  I guess versions later than 3.13 won't run on the 200LX - does anyone have a version 4.x loaded that functions correctly?
It seems from this archive that Derive 4.11 can run on the 200LX: DERIVE with Acrospin for 200LX 4.11.

(03-09-2015 10:33 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  My original query was only concerning versions on application cards.
Do you have a picture of your Derive application card?
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03-09-2015, 11:44 AM
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Here a picture of card:

   
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03-09-2015, 12:36 PM
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Thanks Didier, yes 4.11 works OK on 100LX.
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03-09-2015, 12:40 PM
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Thanks for the picture :-)
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03-09-2015, 02:23 PM
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(03-09-2015 12:36 PM)Gerald H Wrote:  Thanks Didier, yes 4.11 works OK on 100LX.

Also, of course, on my 200LX. Merci beaucoup, Didier!
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02-09-2017, 07:35 PM
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Were there any special drivers that you needed to install (for the screen, perhaps) in order for derive to run? I remember trying to get an old version (was it 5, perhaps?) to run and could not. I assumed that as long as you had a DOS environment (which the LX does, sort of) that it would just be a matter getting the appropriate display drivers. However, I never got it to work (due to lack of drivers.)

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02-10-2017, 02:01 AM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2017 02:04 AM by Gerson W. Barbosa.)
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
I don't remember where I got it from, but this link says this Derive version is optimized for the HP-200's CGA monochrome display. Unfortunately the dark stain in the center of my 200LX grew to an extent that has made it unusable. I replaced the display once for the same reason.

http://vetusware.com/download/DERIVE%20w...1/?id=9186

Good luck!

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02-10-2017, 02:06 AM
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Thank you, Gerson! I'll give a whirl and see where it takes me :-)

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09-18-2017, 05:43 PM
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
(03-09-2015 10:26 AM)Gerson W. Barbosa Wrote:  
(03-09-2015 10:15 AM)Gerald H Wrote:  I think 4.13 is a miss-print for 3.13.
This might imply that one was version 4.13 indeed.

I am a bit slow to join, but I have already spent quite sime time get hold of version 4.13. All I found was version 4.11, which is also the latest version mentioned by the derive user group. So 4.13 was either indeed a typo or very rare.

BTW, derive for dos also runs quite well in a dos box on my android tablet. I prefer it over the current alternatives (e.g. xcas, geogebra).
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09-19-2017, 02:17 PM (This post was last modified: 11-04-2022 10:06 AM by Martin Hepperle.)
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Here is a Derive software timetable which I have composed:

Code:
Year   V   System
1979           muMath CP/M
1988   1.00       MS-DOS, implemented in MuLISP
       1.02    MS-DOS
       1.60    MS-DOS
       1.61    MS-DOS
1990   2       MS-DOS
       2.01    MS-DOS
       2.08    MS-DOS
1992   2.50    MS-DOS   including HP 95LX Application Card
       2.54    MS-DOS
1994   3.00    MS-DOS
       3.02    MS-DOS
       3.10     MS-DOS
       3.11XM  expanded memory usage
       3.12    MS-DOS
       3.13    MS-DOS
       3.14    MS-DOS
1996   4.00       MS-DOS, Windows
       4.03    MS-DOS, Windows, not Windows XP
       4.04    MS-DOS, Windows
       4.11    MS-DOS, Windows  including HP 200LX Version
       4.13    MS-DOS, Windows, not Windows 2000
2000   5.00   Windows
       5.02    Windows, bug-fix update
2001   5.05    Windows
2002   5.06    Windows, bug-fix update
2003   6.00    Windows
2004   6.01    Windows 98, XP, 2000
       6.10     Windows 98, XP, 2000
2007   Texas Instruments stops development and distribution
1999 takeover of Soft Warehouse by Texas Instruments
2000 TI-92

This table may contain errors, feel free to correct.

Derive User Group (German/English)
http://www.austromath.at/dug/index.htm

also at
https://archive.org/search.php?query=Derive

Martin
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11-08-2021, 03:47 AM
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RE: HP 95LX: Derive Maths Programme
Sorry for digging old thread, are there any person have copy of derive manual in pdf format?
I have found "Grand Tour of Derive" (1995), but haven't found about "The Derive User Manual" which mentioned on page 6.

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11-08-2021, 03:26 PM
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In 2006 I tried buying a copy of Derive for DOS from Texas Instruments without success. I ended up purchasing a copy of Derive for DOS from bk teachware in Linz, Austria. I received version 4.11 with a printed manual.

Over the years I've looked for a pdf version of the DOS manual without success. The Derive User Group mentioned by Martin Hepperle is a great source of Derive for DOS information. The earlier newsletters (#1-#30) deal primarily with Derive for DOS.

The newsletters also mention web sites that no longer exist and as Martin Hepperle mentioned archive.org is a useful tool for retrieving them.

The link below also provides a short overview of Derive for DOS:
http://math.hawaii.edu/206L/basics_dos/d...iframe.php

Ross Barnes
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