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11-12-2014, 07:54 PM
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Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
The documents being added are listed here.

Anything I receive within the next very few days can be added. After that they will have to wait for version 9.
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11-13-2014, 02:42 AM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-12-2014 07:54 PM)Dave Hicks Wrote:  The documents being added are listed here.

Anything I receive within the next very few days can be added. After that they will have to wait for version 9.

Dave, do you have a wish list of documents you know you are missing -- that is, documents that you would like people to scan and submit if they possess original copies?

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11-13-2014, 03:18 AM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
Basically HP calculator documents that are not on the list above and also not on this list. are wanted. We are probably missing many non-English manuals. I think we have good coverage of the basic English user's guides though there may be software/options guides that haven't been found yet. Internals and service manuals are hard to find so always welcome when a new one comes up.

In general only HP documents are wanted for V8 since it's too late to get any additional permissions. For V9 or 8.5? we can try to get permissions on other things - though it is often difficult.
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11-13-2014, 05:31 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-13-2014 03:18 AM)Dave Hicks Wrote:  In general only HP documents are wanted for V8 since it's too late to get any additional permissions. For V9 or 8.5? we can try to get permissions on other things - though it is often difficult.
Is that why there are no 50G and Prime manuals?

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11-13-2014, 07:25 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
The permissions comment was in reference to documents where HP is not the copyright holder such as third party books, articles etc. These can be difficult to track down.

The 50G and Prime are current models as far as I know and Document Set only covers the out of production models. I suppose that has a permission aspect as well since that's all I ever asked HP for, but it wasn't what I was thinking of above.
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11-13-2014, 08:42 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
One document we've been looking for is a manual for the HP-75C/D 00075-15035 Data Communication Pac module.

http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-1553.html

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11-14-2014, 10:20 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
I have the ”Data Communication Pac Owner’s Manual, Series 70”, 96 pages.
The Data Communications Pac was created by Iota Systems. I once tried to analyze the ROM and found that it has one BASIC program file “DATACOMM” and the I/O Utilities LEX file with the SENDIO and ENTIO$ commands.

I will hurry to the scanner!
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11-14-2014, 11:28 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-14-2014 10:20 PM)Jakob Sorensen Wrote:  I have the ”Data Communication Pac Owner’s Manual, Series 70”, 96 pages.
The Data Communications Pac was created by Iota Systems. I once tried to analyze the ROM and found that it has one BASIC program file “DATACOMM” and the I/O Utilities LEX file with the SENDIO and ENTIO$ commands.

I will hurry to the scanner!

Mange tak!

Could I impose on you to email me a copy when you have the scan available?

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11-15-2014, 03:31 AM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
I have a very rough scan of the Unit Conversions and other general-purpose pages of the HP-41C Petroleum Fluids Pac. I had to borrow my wife's scanner, with which I'm not familiar, and it scanned the double-page spreads into portrait-format PDF's - I know how to stitch the three PDF's together, but I don't have a tool to rotate the pages. Sorry about this - I'm very pushed for time at the moment.

It's available here, if anyone wants to fiddle with it.

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11-15-2014, 04:08 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2014 04:14 AM by Mark Hardman.)
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-15-2014 03:31 AM)Les Bell Wrote:  I have a very rough scan of the Unit Conversions and other general-purpose pages of the HP-41C Petroleum Fluids Pac. I had to borrow my wife's scanner, with which I'm not familiar, and it scanned the double-page spreads into portrait-format PDF's - I know how to stitch the three PDF's together, but I don't have a tool to rotate the pages. Sorry about this - I'm very pushed for time at the moment.

It's available here, if anyone wants to fiddle with it.

I've rotated and combined the three .pdf files in Acrobat. PM me your email address and I'll send you the result. I went ahead and uploaded the results directly to Dave at ftp hpmuseum.org/incoming/CCF15112014_rot.pdf.

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11-15-2014, 04:30 AM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-15-2014 04:08 AM)Mark Hardman Wrote:  I've rotated and combined the three .pdf files in Acrobat. PM me your email address and I'll send you the result. I went ahead and uploaded the results directly to Dave at ftp hpmuseum.org/incoming/CCF15112014_rot.pdf.

Thanks, Mark - good job! Dave, if you want me to take the original scans down, just let me know.

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11-15-2014, 03:41 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-14-2014 11:28 PM)Mark Hardman Wrote:  
(11-14-2014 10:20 PM)Jakob Sorensen Wrote:  I have the ”Data Communication Pac Owner’s Manual, Series 70”, 96 pages.
The Data Communications Pac was created by Iota Systems. I once tried to analyze the ROM and found that it has one BASIC program file “DATACOMM” and the I/O Utilities LEX file with the SENDIO and ENTIO$ commands.

I will hurry to the scanner!

Mange tak!

Could I impose on you to email me a copy when you have the scan available?

Hello Jakob,
I have been searching for this manual for years.
If it's possible, I would also love to have a copy by email.
Thank you!
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11-15-2014, 04:47 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-15-2014 04:08 AM)Mark Hardman Wrote:  
(11-15-2014 03:31 AM)Les Bell Wrote:  I have a very rough scan of the Unit Conversions and other general-purpose pages of the HP-41C Petroleum Fluids Pac ...
... I went ahead and uploaded the results directly to Dave at ftp hpmuseum.org/incoming/CCF15112014_rot.pdf.

If I'm not wrong, the Petroleum Fuilds Pac manual is already on the MoHPC DVD (and also on the 'other' HP-41 manual DVD).
Or am I missing something?

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11-15-2014, 05:48 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
Yes, petroleum fluids is already on the current (soon to be previous) set.

As for whether certain links should be removed. Your scan of someone else's IP would be a (possible) issue between you and them. In general I try to discourage things that look like obvious infringements but there are many links in this forum and I can't tell what is necessarily an infringement so I mostly have to rely on the IP owners contacting me. As I recall we had 2 "take down" requests in the last year and both were honored.
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11-15-2014, 10:40 PM
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(11-15-2014 04:47 PM)J-F Garnier Wrote:  If I'm not wrong, the Petroleum Fuilds Pac manual is already on the MoHPC DVD (and also on the 'other' HP-41 manual DVD).
Or am I missing something?

No, you're right; I even have DVD set 8 right here, so I've no idea why I missed it!

I've taken the link down - and thanks again to Mark, even though our efforts were redundant. Wink

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11-18-2014, 01:35 AM (This post was last modified: 11-22-2014 05:25 PM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-12-2014 07:54 PM)Dave Hicks Wrote:  Anything I receive within the next very few days can be added. After that they will have to wait for version 9.

Hello Dave,

I am putting the following HP-75 ZIP files on DropBox for your next DVD, if you are interested of course.
Those documents are all HP's so permissions should not be an issue.
Originally I had scanned those documents at 600 DPI, then at 300 DPI but the documents size was too big.
I just hope that this time the file size will small enough to be included in the DVD.

Best regards,

Sylvain

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[manual 150dpi 8.5x7]     Manual scan for either reading or printing (3)
[manual back cover]       Module back cover binder scan
[manual qrg print]        Quick reference guide scan for printing
[manual qrg read]         Quick reference guide scan for reading
[overlay]                 Keyboard overlay(s) scan
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[soft tape]               LIF file containing the magnetic cards programs
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HP-75 Solutions Books ...
00075-13003 Math I.zip
00075-13004 Math II.zip
00075-13005 Math III.zip
00075-13007 Games II.zip
00075-13008 Electronics.zip
00075-13009 Finance.zip
00075-13010 Real Estate (soft only).zip
00075-13011 Statistics (soft only).zip
00075-13012 Test Statistics.zip
00075-13013 IO Utilities.zip
00075-13015 Mass Media Duplication & Privacy.zip
00075-13016 Graphics (soft only).zip

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      18 MB  00075-13007 Games II [manual 150dpi letter] (sc).pdf
     384  B  00075-13007 Games II [soft catalog] (sc).txt
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      25 MB  00075-13008 Electronics [manual 150dpi letter] (sc).pdf
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      25 MB  00075-13009 Finance [manual 150dpi ledger] (sc).pdf
      25 MB  00075-13009 Finance [manual 150dpi letter] (sc).pdf
     674 KB  00075-13009 Finance [soft cards] (sc).pdf
     451  B  00075-13009 Finance [soft catalog] (sc).txt
      33 KB  00075-13009 Finance [soft tape] (sc).dat
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      10 MB  00075-13013 IO Utilities [manual 150dpi letter] (sc).pdf
     219  B  00075-13013 IO Utilities [soft catalog] (sc).txt
     656 KB  00075-13013 IO Utilities [soft tape] (sc).dat
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HP-75 Modules & Peripherals ...
00075-90001 HP-75 Owners Pac (Part 1 of 3).zip
00075-90001 HP-75 Owners Pac (Part 2 of 3).zip
00075-90001 HP-75 Owners Pac (Part 3 of 3).zip
00075-15014 VisiCalc.zip
00075-15015 Math Pac.zip
00075-15019 Text Formatter.zip
82713A Plug-In Module Simulator.zip
82725A Bar Code Reader Module.zip

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     814 KB  00075-15014 VisiCalc [manual back cover] (sc).pdf
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      18 MB  00075-15014 VisiCalc [manual prog-ref 150dpi 8.5x7] (sc).pdf
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     796 KB  00075-15019 Text Formatter [manual back cover] (sc).pdf
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     700 KB  00075-15019 Text Formatter [manual qrg read] (sc).pdf
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     214 KB  00075-15019 Text Formatter [soft cards] (sc).pdf
     322  B  00075-15019 Text Formatter [soft catalog] (sc).txt
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       8 MB  82713A Plug-In Module Simulator [manual 150dpi letter] (sc).pdf
     236 KB  82713A Plug-In Module Simulator [soft cards] (sc).pdf
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Enjoy!

Sylvain

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11-18-2014, 06:13 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
Thank you Sylvain!

After an initial look it appears that we have around 5 new manuals, 5 duplicate manuals, not including the software only zips. So I just wanted to remind everyone about the existing list here so people aren't rescanning without realizing it:

http://www.hpmuseum.org/software/swcd.htm

The visicalc document is interesting because it has two copyrights. While I have permission from HP, I'm not sure whether multi-copyrighted documents act as an AND or OR with respect to getting permissions.
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11-19-2014, 02:53 AM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-18-2014 06:13 PM)Dave Hicks Wrote:  The visicalc document is interesting because it has two copyrights. While I have permission from HP, I'm not sure whether multi-copyrighted documents act as an AND or OR with respect to getting permissions.

It depends on how HP licensed the content from Visicorp or Software Arts. According to this page at Dan Bricklin's site, the copyright passed to Lotus, which means it should be owned by IBM now. (Lotus killed Visicalc shortly after acquiring it from Software Arts.)


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11-19-2014, 03:54 AM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-18-2014 06:13 PM)Dave Hicks Wrote:  The visicalc document is interesting because it has two copyrights. While I have permission from HP, I'm not sure whether multi-copyrighted documents act as an AND or OR with respect to getting permissions.

For what it is worth, scans of the HP-75 VisiCalc Owner's Manual and the VisiCalc Programmers Reference have been available in the HP Computer Museum's Documentation Collection since 2008.

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11-20-2014, 04:50 PM
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RE: Document Set 8 is wrapping up very soon
(11-12-2014 07:54 PM)Dave Hicks Wrote:  The documents being added are listed here.

Anything I receive within the next very few days can be added. After that they will have to wait for version 9.

I'd suggest that when you have both color and b/w versions of a manual, delete the b/w version. That would save space and make more sense when dealing with multi-colored shift keys. It doesn't do much good to have the instructions request the use of a gold key when it looks the same as a blue key or a green key in the listings.

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