another puzzle
11-11-2020, 12:24 AM
Post: #1
 Don Shepherd Senior Member Posts: 745 Joined: Dec 2013
another puzzle
My sister-in-law sent me this puzzle. She works in a dental office and the staff tried to solve the puzzle and got different answers (not surprizingly).

Here is the puzzle:

11-11-2020, 12:59 AM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2020 01:02 AM by Thomas Okken.)
Post: #2
 Thomas Okken Senior Member Posts: 1,765 Joined: Feb 2014
RE: another puzzle
109

(This line is filler because posting just that number is not allowed.)
11-11-2020, 01:11 AM
Post: #3
 rprosperi Super Moderator Posts: 5,243 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
Why not 112?

--Bob Prosperi
11-11-2020, 01:29 AM
Post: #4
 Joe Horn Senior Member Posts: 1,841 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
(11-11-2020 01:11 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  Why not 112?

I agree with Thomas (109) because:
Line 1: each measuring cup = 10
Line 2: each cookie (cooked or not) = 1
Line 3: subtract cup (10) and 12 cookies (12) from both sides: wooden spoon (?) = 5
Line 4: spoon (5) + cup (10) + 1 cookie = 16
Line 5: 9 cookies (9) + cup (10) × 2 spoons (10) = 9+10×10 = 109.
If left-to-right math is used ("chain mode"), you get 190.

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-Joe-
11-11-2020, 01:54 AM
Post: #5
 rprosperi Super Moderator Posts: 5,243 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
Aha, I didn't notice that there were varying amounts of cookies on the trays, I thought 'tray of cookies' was a unit. Which made the puzzle silly.

Should have known... and it's rare that I miss details that involve cookies.

--Bob Prosperi
11-11-2020, 02:06 AM
Post: #6
 Thomas Okken Senior Member Posts: 1,765 Joined: Feb 2014
RE: another puzzle
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I've seen several puzzles like this lately, always involving some detail that turns out you have to count, like the cookies in this one. This one was a bit less sneaky than some of the others, in that the fourth equation provides a hint that something is up. If "tray of cookies" were a unit by itself then that fourth equation would be redundant...
11-11-2020, 02:38 AM
Post: #7
 Don Shepherd Senior Member Posts: 745 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
Thomas, I've got to hand it to you, you are da' man! I thought 112 like Bob (and my sister-in-law). She couldn't figure out why the girl that guessed 109 was the winner, neither could I until I saw your post and explanation (and Joe too).

You've got to pay attention to the details.
11-11-2020, 03:03 AM
Post: #8
 rprosperi Super Moderator Posts: 5,243 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
(11-11-2020 02:06 AM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I've seen several puzzles like this lately, always involving some detail that turns out you have to count, like the cookies in this one. This one was a bit less sneaky than some of the others, in that the fourth equation provides a hint that something is up. If "tray of cookies" were a unit by itself then that fourth equation would be redundant...

Yes, I looked and looked at the 4th line, and finally concluded it was simply extraneous info intended to distract; cookies will do that. Nowhere was it said that all information was necessary, although it's typically assumed to be so in these puzzles.

--Bob Prosperi
11-12-2020, 04:32 AM
Post: #9
 Mjim Junior Member Posts: 45 Joined: Nov 2019
RE: another puzzle
Also got 112 like most others here, but for some reason those cookie trays looked like pills and the stirrer a toothbrush, so well I didn't even notice it as a tray of cookies until that was pointed out!

Still if that was the way they're playing it, why is the single cookie not on a tray...selective visualization, I call foul!
11-12-2020, 10:36 AM
Post: #10
 toml_12953 Senior Member Posts: 1,855 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
(11-12-2020 04:32 AM)Mjim Wrote:  Still if that was the way they're playing it, why is the single cookie not on a tray...selective visualization, I call foul!

But it looks like a chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin cookie! Surely you must make allowances for those yummy Bastions of Biscuitness!

Tom L
Cui bono?
11-12-2020, 12:15 PM
Post: #11
 SlideRule Senior Member Posts: 1,324 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
Lotsa Pampered Chef Math using Pampered Chef Math Challenge as a Search Engine target. Give it a go!

Best!
SlideRule
11-13-2020, 11:59 PM
Post: #12
 BruceH Senior Member Posts: 387 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: another puzzle
(11-11-2020 02:38 AM)Don Shepherd Wrote:  You've got to pay attention to the details.

The trouble with paying close attention to the details is that row 4 starts to look like spatula plus jug plus petri dish of some horrible bacterial culture, probably botulism. ;-)
11-15-2020, 05:14 PM
Post: #13
 cdmackay Senior Member Posts: 639 Joined: Sep 2018
RE: another puzzle
OT: I recently took the UK's amateur radio exams; there, it's common for them to put in a bit of extraneous detail, not needed to answer the question, deliberately to lead you astray.

Or, as they would no doubt put it, to make sure you understood it correctly

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