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01-22-2020, 06:31 PM
Post: #61
RE: DM41X
(01-22-2020 06:19 PM)Dave Britten Wrote:  I'm holding out to see if the keyboard and features make it worth getting, when I could just use my 41CX, or buy i41CX for my iPhone for about 10% the price.

The keyboard on the iPhone will certainly be better than that of the 41X. :)

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01-22-2020, 06:32 PM
Post: #62
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(01-22-2020 04:56 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  
(01-22-2020 04:01 PM)mfleming Wrote:  Does the CPU have sufficient internal SRAM to implement four banks of 8 (preferably 12) I/O pages, plus extended memory?
ALL of the register address space?
I assume that the it will run the standard or slightly modified 41XC ROM's, so my expectation is ... normal 41CX behavior.

All correct. the 41X has full 41CX main and extended RAM, and can use all upper pages (including 4,6,7 but 6 is taken if you enable printing, as usual) for loading modules, plus several hundred KB of flash storage for holding modules ready to 'plug-in'. So, as for module storage, less than a CL can hold, but still likely hundreds more than anyone would want. Upper page support for RAM (aka qROM) is also available for HEPAX, etc.

There is also storage for multiple state files, off-screen images, screen shots, help files, .raw files for import and export, all of which are available via USB drag-n-drop, similar to the DM42.

There is no USB virtual HP-IL capability at launch.

So, while it is still 'only a 41CX', it extends that definition into new and different areas than have never been seen before.

It's cool. Big Grin

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01-22-2020, 08:00 PM
Post: #63
RE: DM41X
(01-22-2020 09:37 AM)jthole Wrote:  Edit: my resistance didn't last long ... just ordered a beta unit -)

About why a DM41X instead of a DM42? Keyboard layout, no menus, and (less relevant to me) access to all(?) HP-41C modules.

Gene: Ah, but that is the exact reason the DM41X is > DM42 to me... the huge HP-41 software base enabled by Monte's HP-41CL.

It dwarfs the HP-42 software base. In 30 second, access to a completely different machine by loading all sorts of software someone else has already developed.

Well worth it to me, but that is only my opinion. :-)
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01-22-2020, 09:12 PM
Post: #64
RE: DM41X
(01-22-2020 04:40 AM)KF6GPE Wrote:  Thanks for the tip! Ordered mine. Can't wait!!

OK, my credibility is shot when I say I won't be buying a calculator from SM. I just ordered one as well. I watched the video and the combination of possibility of HPIL via USB in future updates and the portrait orientation drew me in.

David and Michael, will you guys either

  1. Stop selling calculators that are of such high quality that I can't resist buying one
  2. Send my wife some nice flowers so she doesn't mind that I can't resist buying one


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01-22-2020, 09:34 PM (This post was last modified: 01-22-2020 09:35 PM by Massimo Gnerucci.)
Post: #65
RE: DM41X
(01-22-2020 09:12 PM)toml_12953 Wrote:  David and Michael, will you guys either

  1. Send my wife some nice flowers so she doesn't mind that I can't resist buying one

Ahahahah :D
Well said: flowers included in shipping charges.

Ok, D&M?

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01-22-2020, 11:05 PM
Post: #66
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(01-09-2020 07:02 PM)Gene Wrote:  This is why there should be a LIKE button in the forum. :-)

Hear, hear!

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01-23-2020, 08:17 AM
Post: #67
RE: DM41X
When someone gets their hand on this DM41X, can you try the Ladybug module on it? I am curious what happens with the multi-stack and multi-program line displays.

The reason is that Ladybug replaces the standard stack display and also fiddles with program lines (semi-merged steps). I doubt it will work, I am mostly curious how bad it becomes.

I am also in the process of generalizing these facilities for a coming OS extension module, so I expect that there may eventually be more modules that performs similar tricks.

Will it have RAM in the 400-FFF area (like the 41CL)? That could allow for larger extended memory as is now possible on the 41CL.

Also, is this DM41X going to be open source? As it has an ARM processor, it may be possible to make some ARM based sub-system as an addition to the simulated MCODE. I doubt that I will find any time for such endeavours, but it would be interesting to know if this will be open and allowed?
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01-23-2020, 11:04 AM
Post: #68
RE: DM41X
Yup. Just pulled the lever. I don’t need one, but I DO want one...

(Still hoping for my 'HP35 X', though ?).

P.s. the SwissMicos website is dreadful.

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01-23-2020, 12:12 PM
Post: #69
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(01-23-2020 11:04 AM)Ignatz Wrote:  P.s. the SwissMicos website is dreadful.

It's particularly dreadful if you're trying to use it on a handheld device. Which is ironic for a company that sells handheld devices. Smile
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01-23-2020, 12:40 PM
Post: #70
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(01-23-2020 12:12 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 11:04 AM)Ignatz Wrote:  P.s. the SwissMicos website is dreadful.

It's particularly dreadful if you're trying to use it on a handheld device. Which is ironic for a company that sells handheld devices. Smile

Yeah, my DM41L has a hell of a time getting it to load!
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01-23-2020, 08:04 PM
Post: #71
RE: DM41X
By what carrier is Michael (Swiss Micro) using to ship the new/beta DM41X to the United States?
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01-23-2020, 08:18 PM
Post: #72
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Swiss Post to the US Postal Service.

No tracking number provided, so just have to be patient.
Sometimes things have arrived within a week, other times, longer.
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01-23-2020, 10:26 PM
Post: #73
RE: DM41X
(01-23-2020 08:18 PM)ctrclckws Wrote:  Swiss Post to the US Postal Service.

No tracking number provided, so just have to be patient.
Sometimes things have arrived within a week, other times, longer.

From Switzerland to here (NL) is consistently within three days, sometimes even two ... Swiss Post is really efficient.
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01-23-2020, 11:37 PM
Post: #74
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Not necessarily the US end.
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01-23-2020, 11:42 PM
Post: #75
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(01-23-2020 11:37 PM)ctrclckws Wrote:  Not necessarily the US end.

True. I had a package that came from overseas and I tracked it to Plattsburgh, NY (about 80 km away from Malone, NY) Then it went to Memphis TN (about 1980 km away) before coming here to Malone. Sounds really efficient to me!

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01-24-2020, 12:54 AM
Post: #76
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Normal delivery time from Benglen/Zurich/Switzerland to Montreal/Quebec/Canada is 5 to 7 days.
My DM41X was shipped on 2020-01-21 so the fun should start early next week. Smile
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01-24-2020, 12:57 AM
Post: #77
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Deliveries to Michigan tend to take about 2 weeks once I get a shipping notification, give or take a couple of days. I think that's pretty typical for most orders to the US from what I've seen.
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01-24-2020, 09:12 AM
Post: #78
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(01-24-2020 12:57 AM)Dave Britten Wrote:  Deliveries to Michigan tend to take about 2 weeks once I get a shipping notification, give or take a couple of days. I think that's pretty typical for most orders to the US from what I've seen.

Mark Hardman might disagree with you on that point Smile

Mind you, Texas is not Michigan... His DM42 only arrived after 5 or 6 weeks, and then it was covered in fingerprints on the screen and the remnants of a program were still in it. Clearly, customs officials decided to open the package, play with the calculator for a while and thought it had a touch screen!

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01-24-2020, 12:52 PM
Post: #79
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(01-24-2020 09:12 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 12:57 AM)Dave Britten Wrote:  Deliveries to Michigan tend to take about 2 weeks once I get a shipping notification, give or take a couple of days. I think that's pretty typical for most orders to the US from what I've seen.

Mark Hardman might disagree with you on that point Smile

Mind you, Texas is not Michigan... His DM42 only arrived after 5 or 6 weeks, and then it was covered in fingerprints on the screen and the remnants of a program were still in it. Clearly, customs officials decided to open the package, play with the calculator for a while and thought it had a touch screen!

Well, there's certainly no accounting for whatever weird things customs decides to do with it as it passes through.
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01-24-2020, 01:08 PM
Post: #80
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(01-24-2020 12:52 PM)Dave Britten Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 09:12 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  Mark Hardman might disagree with you on that point :)

Mind you, Texas is not Michigan... His DM42 only arrived after 5 or 6 weeks, and then it was covered in fingerprints on the screen and the remnants of a program were still in it. Clearly, customs officials decided to open the package, play with the calculator for a while and thought it had a touch screen!

Well, there's certainly no accounting for whatever weird things customs decides to do with it as it passes through.

Does this include passing through a hippo?
:)

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