(25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
10-09-2018, 12:37 AM
Post: #1
 SlideRule Senior Member Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2013
(25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
If French is a language you are versed in and have the time/desire to translate a collection of HP-25 programs from French to English, send me a PM. Anyone can start & contribute with a translation of the attached PDF of the target contents.
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BEST!
SlideRule
10-09-2018, 04:50 AM (This post was last modified: 10-09-2018 05:01 AM by Thomas Klemm.)
Post: #2
 Thomas Klemm Senior Member Posts: 1,447 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
Used Google Translate for this one:
Quote:Raccordement parabolique entre 2 paraboles.

Quote:Parabolic connection between 2 dishes.

However the 2nd suggestion is more likely what we want:
Quote:Parabolic connection between two parabolas.

(10-05-2018 09:09 PM)burkhard Wrote:  Wow, somebody uses "GRAD" mode!

We found the other one:
Quote:
• Raccordement circulaire entre 1 droite and 1 circle.
• R > 0 et $$\alpha$$ < 200gr ou R < 0 et $$\alpha$$ > 200gr
• R < 0 et $$\alpha$$ < 200gr ou R > 0 et $$\alpha$$ > 200gr

And where are the programs?
Nice handwriting by the way.

Kind regards
Thomas
10-09-2018, 11:55 AM (This post was last modified: 10-12-2018 12:56 PM by SlideRule.)
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 SlideRule Senior Member Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
Quote:…And where are the programs?…

My intent is to translate the collection via collaboration with a mother tongue member rather than transliterate via brute force, hence the CONTENTS only posting. If the interest in the programs is pressing, an extant posting will proceed. I was hoping for a PM prior to further action.

I believe my reticence is well expressed in Thomas's reply, thanks for the confirmation.

BEST!
SlideRule
10-12-2018, 12:56 PM
Post: #4
 SlideRule Senior Member Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
Quote:…And where are the programs?…

My intent is to translate the collection via collaboration with a mother tongue member rather than transliterate via brute force, hence the CONTENTS only posting. If the interest in the programs is pressing, an extant posting will proceed. I was hoping for a PM prior to further action.

I believe my reticence is well expressed in Thomas's reply, thanks for the confirmation.

BEST!
SlideRule

ps: OK, check out General Software Library for a partial posting
10-12-2018, 01:03 PM
Post: #5
 PedroLeiva Member Posts: 167 Joined: Jun 2014
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
(10-09-2018 11:55 AM)SlideRule Wrote:
Quote:…And where are the programs?…

My intent is to translate the collection via collaboration with a mother tongue member rather than transliterate via brute force, hence the CONTENTS only posting. If the interest in the programs is pressing, an extant posting will proceed. I was hoping for a PM prior to further action.

I believe my reticence is well expressed in Thomas's reply, thanks for the confirmation.

BEST!
SlideRule
I like this initiative for HP25 geometric software, looks very well done. Unfortunately, no numeric examples for the programs presented, this would help translation from French to English. I will file the collection. I wish you good luck and that a collaborator will soon appear. Pedro
10-12-2018, 06:28 PM
Post: #6
 badaze Member Posts: 101 Joined: Nov 2017
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
Even if I understand each separate word because I’m French I’m not able to understand a whole sentence !

Tabulations de points en X, Y sur une droite sounds to me like a restaurant menu dish name.

My site http://www.emmella.fr
10-12-2018, 07:06 PM (This post was last modified: 10-12-2018 07:17 PM by Thomas Okken.)
Post: #7
 Thomas Okken Senior Member Posts: 1,128 Joined: Feb 2014
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
With my high school French, I was able to figure most of it out (from the 1-14.pdf), though without the illustrations I would have been lost. I'm not familiar with French mathematical jargon, but guessed that "droite" is similar to the use of "Gerade" (noun) in German, meaning "straight line."

I can't for the life of me figure out what "gisement" is supposed to mean in this context, though. (Program 4, center of page.) The definitions I find in Wiktionary and elsewhere on-line don't seem to apply.

And I'd never seen the notation

Code:
1 | x   | y

before. Again from context, it looks like it means "point 1."
10-12-2018, 09:14 PM
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 grsbanks Senior Member Posts: 1,198 Joined: Jan 2017
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
(10-12-2018 07:06 PM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  I can't for the life of me figure out what "gisement" is supposed to mean in this context, though.

I've never seen it used in this context (and I did 5 years of school in France!) but would guess it means "slope". A straight line (that is indeed what "une droite" is) can be defined by two points or by one point and a slope (or vector for that matter).
10-12-2018, 11:13 PM
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 Thomas Klemm Senior Member Posts: 1,447 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
translates "gisement" to German "die Seitenpeilung" and this in turn to English "relative bearing".

If you look at the code the difference of the coordinates of point 1 and 2 is transformed to polar coordinates.
Thus it's an angle, not a slope. But of course they are related.

HTH
Thomas
10-13-2018, 04:02 PM
Post: #10
 Thomas Okken Senior Member Posts: 1,128 Joined: Feb 2014
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
(10-12-2018 11:13 PM)Thomas Klemm Wrote:   translates "gisement" to German "die Seitenpeilung" and this in turn to English "relative bearing".

11-08-2018, 04:41 PM
Post: #11
 SlideRule Senior Member Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
All EIGHT parts are now posted, enjoy.

BEST!
SlideRule

ps: I did the submit the series as a complete PDF for the DVD, etc..
11-08-2018, 04:52 PM
Post: #12
 PedroLeiva Member Posts: 167 Joined: Jun 2014
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
(11-08-2018 04:41 PM)SlideRule Wrote:  All EIGHT parts are now posted, enjoy.

BEST!
SlideRule

ps: I did the submit the series as a complete PDF for the DVD, etc..
Sorry, I can´t see EIGHT parts of this French programs job. I have downloaded 4 PDF, where are the other four?
Pedro
11-08-2018, 05:54 PM
Post: #13
 SlideRule Senior Member Posts: 1,255 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
(11-08-2018 04:52 PM)PedroLeiva Wrote:  Sorry, I can´t see EIGHT parts of this French programs job. I have downloaded 4 PDF, where are the other four?
Pedro

Greetings Pedro; there here, the General Software Library, HP Software Libraries, posted as:
(25) 5-of-8 Calcul de Base
(25) 6-of-8 Calcul dune Parabole
(25) 7-of-8 Calculs de Raccordement
(25) 8-of-8 Calcul Relatif aux Profils Travers
sorry for any confusion

BEST!
SlideRule
11-08-2018, 05:56 PM
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 PedroLeiva Member Posts: 167 Joined: Jun 2014
RE: (25) Calculs Planimetriques en Coordonnees
(11-08-2018 05:54 PM)SlideRule Wrote:
(11-08-2018 04:52 PM)PedroLeiva Wrote:  Sorry, I can´t see EIGHT parts of this French programs job. I have downloaded 4 PDF, where are the other four?
Pedro

Greetings Pedro; there here, the General Software Library, HP Software Libraries, posted as:
(25) 5-of-8 Calcul de Base
(25) 6-of-8 Calcul dune Parabole
(25) 7-of-8 Calculs de Raccordement
(25) 8-of-8 Calcul Relatif aux Profils Travers
sorry for any confusion

BEST!
SlideRule
Great, TYVM
Pedro
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