[VA] SRC#001 - Spiky Integral
07-22-2018, 12:33 AM
Post: #41
 Valentin Albillo Senior Member Posts: 391 Joined: Feb 2015
RE: [VA] SRC#001 - Spiky Integral
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Hi, Albert:

(07-21-2018 04:00 PM)Albert Chan Wrote:  From Valentin Albillo last post, my estimate match correct values, to 15 digits. Comparing values in binary form, accuracy is even better, mine is just 6 ULP over !

Thanks Valentin. I am amazed at how your integration function work.

You're welcome. Thanks to you for your fresh and effective insight, your contribution to this subject has been truly outstanding and I for one appreciate it. Also, I'm glad if my numeric quadrature results were useful for you to check your remarkably accurate approximations.

Quote:You mentioned the problems of it computing I(20000).
Shrinking the integral range 800,000 times may help: (0 to Pi/400000) instead of (0, 2 Pi)

Sure it does. These are the results my quadrature program outputs for the various ranges you mention:

I(20000, 0..Pi/40000)

0    0.000000767448975625012059728677812789736739179600994
1    0.000000767448983276014084555342766291500235218569303
2    0.000000767448983276034720208510846724248989670327563
3    0.000000767448983276034720208518559793576182713599610
4    0.000000767448983276034720208518559793576182713598529
(all 51 decimals digits shown are correct)

I(20000, 0..Pi/400000)

0    0.00000076744898327603472020851855979357618264054999631
350
64117112150402698116508077139817678384714549561511

1    0.00000076744898327603472020851855979357618264054999631
35038511379081941548835069200608164
307257330429915401

2    0.00000076744898327603472020851855979357618264054999631
35038511379081941548835069200608164289806491475047963
(all 106 digits shown are correct)

However, I concur with you that the fact that these results are accurate to 51 and 106 decimal digits, respectively, for both shrunk ranges does not necessarily mean that after multiplying them by the correct factor the resulting approximate values for the full-range (0..2*Pi) integral will be accurate to that many digits, in fact it's quite conceivable that they are not because both results above match only up to 42 digits, namely:

0.000000767448983276034720208518559793576182

Last but not least, using your remarkable shrinking technique, the value on the full integral for N=20,000 indeed can be computed using an HP calc using just its native 12-digit precision (!!), as these 3 lines of code I wrote for the HP-71B convincingly demonstrates:

1   DESTROY ALL @ SFLAG -1 @ DIM P,I @ DISP 4*INTEGRAL(0,PI/40000,1E-8,FNF(IVAR))
2   DEF FNF(X) @ P=1 @ FOR I=1 TO 20000 @ P=P*COS(I*X) @ IF NOT P THEN END
3   NEXT I @ FNF=P

>RUN

3.06979593356E-6
(75 min. in Emu71) wich is accurate to 10 digits.

Note: That simplest of tricks in the function's definition ("IF NOT P THEN END") halves the computing time.

Regards.
V.
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07-22-2018, 04:50 AM (This post was last modified: 07-22-2018 10:37 AM by Albert Chan.)
Post: #42
 Albert Chan Senior Member Posts: 684 Joined: Jul 2018
RE: [VA] SRC#001 - Spiky Integral
(07-22-2018 12:33 AM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:  both results above match only up to 42 digits, namely:

0.000000767448983276034720208518559793576182

Hi Valentin, Thanks for the check.

The fact that two integral only match 42 digits does not mean anything.
The spike formula asked for full spike area.

I chopped the spike only for speedier computation, trading accuracy for time.

Plotting N vs spike formula digits accuracy, and it followed a straight line,
already reaching 15 digits accuracy for N = 60

You might like to try the spike formula again, for N = 1000.
For I(1000), you have a correct value to match against ...
07-22-2018, 02:01 PM
Post: #43
 Albert Chan Senior Member Posts: 684 Joined: Jul 2018
RE: [VA] SRC#001 - Spiky Integral
Using Python + numpy, I managed to calculate I(1000)

Code:
import numpy def spike(n):     terms = 1 + n*(n+1) // 2    # terms count of Product[z^i + 1/z^i, {i, n}]     if terms % 2 == 0: return 0 # no constant term     b = numpy.array([0] * (terms//2 + 1), dtype=object)     b[-2:] = 1                  # 1 + z     for i in range(2, n+1):     # multiply by 1 + z^i         b[:-i] += b[i:]         # build half terms     return b[0]                 # constant term

>>> spike.spike(1000)
46770858699105378013047692849647150249048020026391352159837485075187255449381044​
44575512200800626116981293400844929213580025428715543816767352635000639866305236​
49271451391806356678763700553308953903873511563867155215734010997332808966175771​
715884247295296277348179194597363883854664431808932677416L

Above calculation take 49 seconds on my laptop

I(1000) = b[0] / 2^1000 * (2 Pi) =

0.000274258153608378926807734432669808007979394749673091726358234027755841714506​
72423455696454538012082538178315765975675889323840397403322977190964502744011004​
81739611552026042903356881417709016110968635764441594831973619603002437175558485​
42910006760212326308258399120935101281203608176357009606892564575924775067719 ...

Rounded to 45 digits, it match Valentin value exactly

Is it possible to explain how the integration code work ?
How does it handle so many spikes ?
07-22-2018, 09:06 PM (This post was last modified: 07-22-2018 09:07 PM by Valentin Albillo.)
Post: #44
 Valentin Albillo Senior Member Posts: 391 Joined: Feb 2015
RE: [VA] SRC#001 - Spiky Integral
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Hi, Albert:

Albert Chan Wrote:Hi Valentin, Thanks for the check.

You're welcome.

Quote:The fact that two integral only match 42 digits does not mean anything. The spike formula asked for full spike area. [...]You might like to try the spike formula again, for N = 1000. For I(1000), you have a correct value to match against ...

I'll do it soon, when I get home in a few hours.

Quote:Rounded to 45 digits, it match Valentin value exactly

Of course. That's why I stated "(all 48 decimal digits shown are correct)" ... :-) ... (the 48 decimal digits mentioned include the three initial zeros as well).

Quote:Is it possible to explain how the integration code work ? How does it handle so many spikes ?

I developed the code myself as a program for the HP-71B, good for 12 digits and easily surpassing the speed of the assembly-language Math ROM's INTEGRAL keyword, then ported it nearly verbatim to a multiprecision environment, which is the version I've used to produce the results I've posted in this thread.

The code was intended to be included in one of my PDF Datafile articles some 10 years ago, as explaining it and providing relevant examples would take at least some 10-12 pages. Alas, for reasons which I won't repeat here the article was never submitted for publication and remains unpublished to this day.

If (and when) I can find some adequate place where to publish it, I'll post an announcement here for interested people (like yourself) to download it for free.

Thanks for your interest and regards.
V.
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07-24-2018, 12:13 AM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2019 06:02 PM by Albert Chan.)
Post: #45
 Albert Chan Senior Member Posts: 684 Joined: Jul 2018
RE: [VA] SRC#001 - Spiky Integral
Using Gaussian Quadrature for spike formula = 4*I(1000, 0 to Pi/2000), against exact I(1000):
• 200 digits accuracy
• 204 matched digits after decimal point
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