Catenoid soap bubbles
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11-08-2021, 01:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-18-2021 01:01 PM by Albert Chan.)
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RE: Catenoid soap bubbles
(11-07-2021 08:08 PM)ijabbott Wrote: For different top and bottom radii, you really would have to solve for both a and b. mpmath can handle multiple nonlinear equations with multiple unknowns. And, with different solver to suit the need ![]() >>> from mpmath import * >>> R1, R2, L = 1.016/2, 1.12/2, 0.5 >>> def findab(x,y): return lambda a,b: a*cosh((x-b)/a) - y ... >>> findroot([findab(0,R1), findab(L,R2)], [R1,L/2]) matrix( [['0.462106619540686'], ['0.204282212315188']]) --- Solving system of non-linear equations is hard. I don't think Cas (even XCas) has built-ins to solve them. Luckily, we can easily turn above to 1 equation with 1 unknown. R1 = a*cosh((0-b)/a) R1/a = cosh(b/a) R2 = a*cosh((L-b)/a) R2/a = cosh(L/a) * cosh(b/a) - sinh(L/a) * sinh(b/a) = cosh(L/a) * (R1/a) - sinh(L/a) * sqrt((R1/a-1)*(R1/a+1)) Solving in Cas (but, to avoid sqrt of negative numbers, make sure guess a < R1) Cas> finda := (cosh(l/a)*r1 - sinh(l/a)*sqrt((r1+a)*(r1-a))) - r2 Cas> fsolve(finda(l=0.5, r1=0.508, r2=0.560), a=0.5) 0.462106619541 // = a Cas> id(acosh(r1/a)*a) (a=Ans, r1=0.508) 0.204282212315 // = b --- Update: I was wrong, Cas/XCas can solve this (without guesses !) Cas> fsolve([a*cosh(b/a), a*cosh((0.5-b)/a)] = [0.508, 0.56], [a,b]) [0.462106619541, 0.204282212315] |
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Catenoid soap bubbles - ijabbott - 11-06-2021, 07:51 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - C.Ret - 11-07-2021, 12:11 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - Albert Chan - 11-07-2021, 04:27 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - ijabbott - 11-07-2021, 08:08 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - Albert Chan - 11-08-2021 01:56 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - Wes Loewer - 11-07-2021, 05:44 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - ijabbott - 11-07-2021, 07:56 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - ijabbott - 11-08-2021, 04:28 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - Albert Chan - 11-08-2021, 06:03 PM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - Joe Horn - 11-09-2021, 02:57 AM
RE: Catenoid soap bubbles - ijabbott - 11-09-2021, 08:29 AM
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