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(10-17-2021 11:36 PM)teenix Wrote:  Does the card motor actually work? Maybe it is loading the sense chip too much if it has a problem. Maybe the capacitor attached to the motor connectors has failed.

It does, which is part of the weird thing. I carefully desoldered the positive lead to the motor, and powered it independently with my lab power supply. It started slowly turning at about 1.9v, and it was easily able to rotate and pull cards through at about 2.5v. In fact, I sent several cards through the reader this way and made sure that the RA and RB signals looked healthy (they did)

(10-17-2021 11:36 PM)teenix Wrote:  Unlikely if it hasn't been moved much, but make sure the ribbon cable traces are not cracked. Maybe wiggle the ribbon in case some high resistance has built up in the connector.

At least with the CPU board, there is storage for 800+ cards so if the card reader is unserviceable, it won't matter.

Yes, the ribbon cable is suspect, of course, but I did measure Vbatt, the control signals, etc.. on the card reader side of the ribbon and all those signals looked to be in good shape. If the stars align, and the motor's working, (remember, it's intermittent) I'm able to write cards without an error, but I can't read anything, so it's impossible to verify.

(10-17-2021 11:36 PM)teenix Wrote:  The [F] segment lit could be a fault in the display, or some corrosion on the display board or an internal short. It is tricky to get the display out but possible. Be careful not to damage the display ribbon cable as it only has single wire strand connections which may break. I would not advise removing the ribbon cable from the connectors as they are held tight and the wires may break. If you have to, be careful.

It is hard to isolate the led connections between the circuit boards for testing which is a problem. Please don't be tempted to bend the pins to isolate them, as they "will" break and are also unobtainium.

This is very helpful, thank you. I'll look at it more closely than just assuming it's the inductor-based failure case you describe in your notes document.

(10-17-2021 11:36 PM)teenix Wrote:  I had some small PCBs made that should connect as a replacement for the anode driver in the 97. It is based on PN2222 surface mount transistors (which I think are similar to those inside the anode drivers). I haven't had a chance to try it yet. I could send one, but the postal service has gone weird here and overcharges big time for tiny packages like this. It stinks because if I send the exact same size and weight in paper the cost is 1/7th. I could try sending one in a 'get well' card ;-)

That's a brilliant idea! I have a PCB mill, so I could go ahead and make some of those myself. Would you mind sharing the Gerbers for it, and the exact part numbers for the transistors (I've been burned by similar parts having different EBC/ECB/etc. layouts.

Thanks!!
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RE: HP97 The journey begins - PANAMATIK - 06-13-2021, 11:50 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-13-2021, 06:04 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-16-2021, 08:11 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-16-2021, 01:58 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-17-2021, 06:47 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - PANAMATIK - 06-17-2021, 05:58 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 12:33 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - dmh - 06-18-2021, 01:43 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 02:04 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 02:22 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 06:40 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - PANAMATIK - 06-18-2021, 08:16 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 08:50 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 11:27 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 06-18-2021, 11:34 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-18-2021, 12:00 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-20-2021, 08:52 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - PANAMATIK - 06-20-2021, 09:35 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 06-22-2021, 04:35 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Kees Bouw - 06-22-2021, 09:18 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - BobVA - 06-22-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - anetzer - 06-23-2021, 02:00 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-02-2021, 04:33 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-04-2021, 01:01 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-07-2021, 06:18 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-08-2021, 06:39 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-14-2021, 02:51 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-19-2021, 05:25 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - PANAMATIK - 07-19-2021, 10:24 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 07-19-2021, 12:30 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-21-2021, 04:44 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-23-2021, 05:10 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - mfleming - 07-24-2021, 02:36 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - mfleming - 07-23-2021, 02:54 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-25-2021, 12:55 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-26-2021, 06:30 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Harald - 07-26-2021, 02:49 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - ThomasF - 07-26-2021, 04:35 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-26-2021, 08:36 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-27-2021, 04:58 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 07-30-2021, 10:02 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 08-04-2021, 01:21 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - rprosperi - 08-04-2021, 01:44 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 08-04-2021, 02:32 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 08-12-2021, 03:14 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - rprosperi - 08-12-2021, 12:59 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 08-12-2021, 03:12 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Dreato - 08-12-2021, 05:16 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-09-2021, 06:20 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Harald - 09-09-2021, 08:10 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-14-2021, 04:05 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-17-2021, 10:46 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - aurelio - 09-17-2021, 12:40 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-17-2021, 11:16 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Dreato - 09-20-2021, 03:47 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-21-2021, 03:45 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Dreato - 09-22-2021, 03:37 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 09-23-2021, 03:09 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-24-2021, 12:51 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - mfleming - 09-24-2021, 01:30 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-26-2021, 02:14 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - AndiGer - 09-26-2021, 06:26 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 09-26-2021, 07:29 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - AndiGer - 09-26-2021, 08:27 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-01-2021, 06:35 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-01-2021, 11:26 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 10-01-2021, 12:01 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-01-2021, 12:10 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-03-2021, 12:56 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - ThomasF - 10-03-2021, 06:02 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-03-2021, 07:10 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - ThomasF - 10-03-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-03-2021, 11:29 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - ThomasF - 10-03-2021, 03:32 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - AndiGer - 10-03-2021, 03:57 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-04-2021, 02:26 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-09-2021, 03:11 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - BobVA - 10-10-2021, 02:50 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-10-2021, 07:43 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-17-2021, 07:39 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-17-2021, 11:36 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-17-2021 11:47 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-18-2021, 12:37 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-18-2021, 02:05 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-18-2021, 02:32 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-18-2021, 11:03 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-19-2021, 12:13 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-19-2021, 12:20 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-19-2021, 12:29 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-19-2021, 01:32 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-19-2021, 01:58 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-19-2021, 06:51 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-19-2021, 10:13 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-21-2021, 01:50 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-21-2021, 03:12 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-21-2021, 07:46 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - TomC - 10-21-2021, 03:44 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-21-2021, 08:24 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-21-2021, 08:32 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-21-2021, 11:51 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-25-2021, 08:56 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-26-2021, 01:12 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-26-2021, 01:43 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-22-2021, 12:55 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 10-23-2021, 01:01 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 10-23-2021, 01:58 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-01-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-01-2021, 05:21 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-01-2021, 05:24 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-01-2021, 05:35 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-04-2021, 06:13 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-07-2021, 09:07 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - BobVA - 11-07-2021, 06:39 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-07-2021, 07:35 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-09-2021, 07:24 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - rprosperi - 11-09-2021, 01:40 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Chr Yoko - 11-09-2021, 10:35 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-09-2021, 03:52 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-11-2021, 06:25 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-11-2021, 06:34 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-13-2021, 01:00 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - rprosperi - 11-13-2021, 03:30 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - AndiGer - 11-13-2021, 01:54 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - dmh - 11-14-2021, 07:17 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-14-2021, 09:29 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-13-2021, 10:32 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-13-2021, 11:05 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-14-2021, 12:29 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - rprosperi - 11-13-2021, 11:27 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-15-2021, 09:34 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Chr Yoko - 11-15-2021, 12:32 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-15-2021, 10:06 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-15-2021, 10:29 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-17-2021, 05:25 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-17-2021, 08:54 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-18-2021, 02:15 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - hpux735 - 11-18-2021, 02:56 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - TomC - 11-18-2021, 01:55 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-18-2021, 09:05 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-20-2021, 01:59 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-21-2021, 12:43 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-21-2021, 02:55 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-21-2021, 03:23 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-21-2021, 05:17 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-22-2021, 12:32 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-22-2021, 02:18 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-22-2021, 05:12 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-23-2021, 11:55 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - TomC - 11-23-2021, 12:09 PM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-24-2021, 02:37 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Paul Dale - 11-24-2021, 03:04 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - teenix - 11-29-2021, 04:26 AM
RE: HP97 The journey begins - Dreato - 11-30-2021, 06:31 PM



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