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Upcoming PockEmul on Android
06-12-2019, 07:44 PM
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Upcoming PockEmul on Android
Remy, the developer of the wonderful emulator for pocket computers has
just posted an update on the future Android version design specifically
for the touch screen. While there has been a port for the emulator for
Android, it has not been the best of interfaces (in my view). So a version
specifically for Android would be nice. Please see his post:

PockEmul

It appears that he is planning on releasing two versions: a limited
version that would be free and a full version that would cost.

I have been using his emulator for many years and do not have any
problem with paying for a full version on Android. Especially if it's
optimized for the platform.

Meanwhile, the full version 1.4.3 is available for free to run on windows:

PockEmul 1.4.3

If you like pocket PC's but can't afford to own them, then this is a fantastic
way to experience them. He has included a lot of the favorites from Sharp,
Radio Shack, Canon, Casio , HP. Some are still a Work In Progress.
Many of the accessories to the computers are emulated including
memory modules, rom modules, printers, plotters, interfaces, etc.

Bill
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06-12-2019, 08:47 PM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
Thanks a lot, I'm looking forward to it !
Please continue to keep us posted :
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06-12-2019, 11:02 PM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
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Same here, thanks a lot for the news.

I've used PockEmul/Win extensively. It never had a decent UI and gave a lot of problems and crashes (old version, running on Win XP) but nevertheless I used it a lot and was very hepful to develop and test programs and perform calculations in a variety of pocket computers without having to use the physical units in my collection, the vast majority of which are preserved in sealed PVC bags out of light and moisture.

And yes, please keep us informed. I'm sure to buy the Android version if the reviews are good enough. Let's hope its author does care for the people buying his product and fixes bug reports or at least answers us, not like some other developer of Android emulators that never fixes anything and further completely ignores any attempts at communication

Thanks again and regards.
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06-29-2019, 09:48 AM (This post was last modified: 06-29-2019 11:11 AM by remy.)
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
Thank you Bill for this post.

I am the developper of PockEmul and i can add some informations.

PockEmul was created in year 2000 as a hobby and the main goal for me was to add always more and more emulated models.
I must admin, the overall quality of PockEmul was BAD. a lot of bugs and no documentation.

I have now decided to transform PockEmul in a a real professional application.
It tooks me 4 months to fixed all majors issues on a limited perimeter, only 6 models, no extensions, ...
PockEmul Lite is born, and is released since yesterday on the Play Store.
I will release PockEmul Pro between September an the end of the year in differents release, extending the perimeter on each.
I need time to test and fixe all issues.

Be assured that the new challenge for me is to make a real production release. It is a businness challenge not a hobby anymore (well, a little bit yet).

If all goes well, here is the roadmap :
  • 06/28/2019 : PockEmul Lite on the Google Play Store
  • 09/01/2019 : PockEmul Pro V1
  • 10/15/2019 : PockEmul Lite IOS (already running on my dev platform)
  • 10/15/2019 : PockEmul Pro V2
  • 12/31/2019 : PockEmul Pro V3 ( Android and IOS)
  • 06/01/2020 : PockEmul Cloud

PockEmul Pro ( Android or IOS ) will give access to PockEmul Windows and OSX.
PockEmul Cloud will bring the capability to exchange sessions between platform and to create community.

There is a dedicated GitHub repository to collect all issues and features request

Thank you for your passion and have fun.

Best regards

Rémy
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06-29-2019, 04:56 PM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
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Hi, Rémy:

(06-29-2019 09:48 AM)remy Wrote:  I am the developper of PockEmul and i can add some informations.[...]

Great !

Quote:I must admin, the overall quality of PockEmul was BAD. a lot of bugs and no documentation.

Indeed. I suffered both yet that didn't kill it for me, it was still pretty useful to me. And it was for free.

Quote:I have now decided to transform PockEmul in a a real professional application.

Excellent. If you will, a few well-meaning comments:

(1) It won't be a professional application at all unless it's pretty well debugged when it's finally released to the users (i.e.: don't make the first batch of paying users into a bunch of beta-testers, a.k.a. Guinea pigs). Of course some bugs will still appear no matter what, even serious ones, but there's a difference between some and lots. If I pay for it, which I gladly will, I won't tolerate wasting my time doing the debugging for you.

(2) It won't be a professional application at all unless it's pretty well documented. I've been doing professional applications for many decades, either as an analyst/programmer or as project leader, and I'll tell you that no paying client would tolerate getting an application without extensive documentation of all kinds, period. If I pay for your application I want full documentation, the guessing trial-and-error game is not for me.


Lots of people releasing software find programming the thing very funny and exciting but debugging it and most especially documenting it, not so much. If their product is for free, then so be it, I can always throw it to the trash bin and I won't lose a cent, just my time (which is worth considerably more than a cent so I'm likely to never again try another product from such sloth).

But if their product requires payment, and I pay, and then the product is seriously buggy and makes me waste my time and effort, and the product is also lacking any decent documentation whatsoever and makes me waste my time trying things, then the individual that released it that way, and further doesn't ever correct the bugs and even further utterly ignores his paying customers and doesn't answer any requests for information or bug corrections because allegedly he finds it boring and prefers to spend his time on new exciting projects, then that individual is not a professional programmer and has not released a professional application.

I have one particular individual in mind, of course, and you're not him. Please never be like him in that regards, simply do abide by both points (1) and (2) above.

Quote:Thank you for your passion and have fun.

Thanks to you for your enthusiasm and your commitment to deliver a professional product. Here's hoping you actually do and your enthusiasm never fades away.

Have a nice weekend.
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06-29-2019, 06:58 PM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
Just had a quick play on Android, looks very good, thank you very much. I will buy the Pro version to support further development, when it’s available.

Pleased to see the Casio fx-8000G included in the Lite version; also pleased to find I could remember how to drive it despite not having hands on my physical 7000G for decades Smile

Looking forward to new developments.

Cambridge, UK
41CL, 12C/15C, DM15/16, 71B, 17B, 28S, DM42, 48GX, 17bII+, 50g (& newRPL), 35s, 30b (WP 34S), Prime G2
& Casios, Rockwell 18R :)
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07-10-2019, 11:11 AM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
Hello,

TI-57 emulation in PockEmul is based on the source from my TI-57E emulator, right?

I don't want to be picky but, as far as I remember, I never gave the permission for this source to be used in a commercial product.

Or am I missing something here?

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07-10-2019, 11:34 AM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
HP 41C

There's something wrong in lowercase alpha: if I press "shift A" through "shift E" I see "Z[\]^" rather than "abcde".
When first started, after selecting this model, I see "@@@@@@@@@@@@" rather than "0.0000"

And the batteries always lasted for a very long time in all my 41s, no stock necessary... Wink

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07-10-2019, 12:37 PM
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(07-10-2019 11:34 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  HP 41C

There's something wrong in lowercase alpha: if I press "shift A" through "shift E" I see "Z[\]^" rather than "abcde".
When first started, after selecting this model, I see "@@@@@@@@@@@@" rather than "0.0000"
Thank you for your feedback.
You're right, there is an issue with lowercase in the HP-41. I work on it right now.

For the second point it is already in my bug list.

thanks again.

regards

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07-11-2019, 11:52 AM
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RE: Upcoming PockEmul on Android
(07-10-2019 11:11 AM)HrastProgrammer Wrote:  Hello,

TI-57 emulation in PockEmul is based on the source from my TI-57E emulator, right?

I don't want to be picky but, as far as I remember, I never gave the permission for this source to be used in a commercial product.

Or am I missing something here?

Best regards.
HrastProgrammer
Hello,

We had several exchanges of personal messages between Hrast and me.
Hrast is right, PockEmul code is base on TI-57E source package he sent me several years ago. It was not clear for me that he's against commercial use and I've assured him that PockEmul PRO will not use his source code.
I will rewrite entrierly the CPU core emulation and I will not use his modified ROM anymore.
I should have check this with Hrast before pushing PockEmul on the Play Store.

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