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HP-41C LOG PAC
05-02-2019, 12:33 AM
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HP-41C LOG PAC
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Message #1 Posted by Muhammad Ahmad on 1 Sept 2008, 10:04 a.m.
I recently got this LOG PAC module with calculator … is a manual out there for it? Catalog shows it as LOGGING PAC.
Here is the CAT 2 listing for LOG PAC:
PR
PLOT1
REV
LOAD
CLCAR
SSL
STC
MAGDEC
OUPUT
YDCOST
TALHOLD
GUYLINE
TAILTR
COMPARE
FSAP
RIGGING
LINES
ABNEY
LOAD1
DEFL M
TENS 1
LENGTH
SINH
ELLIP
NEW D
NEW Y
X DEFL
TAIL
SKYLEN
MOBILITY
ASD
LOGWT
JACK
PNV-P
PV-INP
P/F-INP
CHS
P/A-INP
N2
AMT
STRG
CK-INP
CK-1
CK-2
RUN
SORT
P/F CMP
P/A CMP
SUM
SUMRY
ALTX
EAW

I have the manual, is the LOG PAC listing(s) available?

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05-02-2019, 01:55 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
I have the module around somewhere and there is a copy of the manual around online.

Many people think that this is for oil well logging but it is for logging trees in forests. Things like calculating timber amounts and setting up skylines for dragging cut trees out.
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05-02-2019, 02:20 AM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2019 02:24 AM by Sylvain Cote.)
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(05-02-2019 01:55 AM)Ken S Wrote:  Many people think that this is for oil well logging but it is for logging trees in forests. Things like calculating timber amounts and setting up skylines for dragging cut trees out.

Is it these ROMs ?
Code:
0x266; PAPERS1.ROM; PAPZ; 10; Logging & Agricultural Engineering, pg 1; 0x642A4569; 09/21/18
0x267; PAPERS2.ROM;     ; 16; Logging & Agricultural Engineering, pg 2; 0x21A7E82C; 09/21/18

References:
Monte website: 41CL
41CLv5 ROM list: mem_ref_v5.txt
Zip file with ROMs in it: rom_files_190501.zip

Answer: not the PAPZ ROM, just tested it on my 41CLv5 and it does not match the CAT 2 listing, I should have tested it before posting Sad
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05-02-2019, 02:46 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
You can download the manual for this Rom HERE

If someone needs it to make a copy let me know or I would be willing to trade it for something interesting.
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05-02-2019, 04:40 AM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2019 04:53 AM by Ángel Martin.)
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(05-02-2019 02:20 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  Answer: not the PAPZ ROM, just tested it on my 41CLv5 and it does not match the CAT 2 listing, I should have tested it before posting Sad

Afraid they aren't the same, I put together the PAPZ image from diverse papers available on the usual web places and then a few unusual ones. Still haven't got around to do the QRG, on the to-do list for this weekend. Some of the subjects seems related, like skidding et al but I haven't done any correlation.

This LOG PAC seems to be yet another one with similar name, also different from the LOGANA images. To my knowledge it hasn't been contributed so far...

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05-02-2019, 04:54 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(05-02-2019 02:46 AM)Ken S Wrote:  You can download the manual for this Rom HERE

Thanks for sharing it, now we only need the ROM ;-)
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05-02-2019, 05:07 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
Guess I wasn't clear. I do have the Rom, the manual isn't mine, I just found it online. I am willing to loan it out for you to make a copy or if you want the Rom I would consider a trade.
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05-02-2019, 06:06 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(05-02-2019 05:07 AM)Ken S Wrote:  Guess I wasn't clear. I do have the Rom, the manual isn't mine, I just found it online. I am willing to loan it out for you to make a copy or if you want the Rom I would consider a trade.

Sent you a PM...
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05-02-2019, 11:30 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
Angel & Ken, thanks for the dialog & the subsequent activity; standing by!

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05-05-2019, 09:31 PM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
I am mailing the module out to the Monte tomorrow for him to make a copy so it should be available to everyone in a couple of weeks.
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06-15-2019, 02:42 AM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
The module that this Log Pac (forestry logging) is often mistaken for, a oil well logging program is on sale on TAS HERE in case anyone is interested. Not my auction and I wont be bidding on it.
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06-15-2019, 03:53 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2019 05:19 PM by burkhard.)
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(06-15-2019 02:42 AM)Ken S Wrote:  The module that this Log Pac (forestry logging) is often mistaken for, a oil well logging program is on sale on TAS HERE in case anyone is interested. Not my auction and I wont be bidding on it.

I had likewise seen the auction earlier and wondered if this LOG ANALYSIS were the same as LOG PAC which you mention. I think not and I don’t see this one in the online database. Not sure if it’s in the 41CL flash either and no PC handy to check the memory PDF. Can somebody look?
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06-15-2019, 09:41 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2019 09:53 AM by grsbanks.)
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(06-15-2019 03:53 AM)burkhard Wrote:  I had seen the auction (buy it now actually) first and wondered if this LOG ANALYSIS were the same as LOG PAC which you mention. I think not and I don’t see this one in the online database. Not sure if it’s in the 41CL flash either and no PC handy to check the memory PDF. Can somebody look?

There's this in the 41CL mem_ref_v5.pdf:

Code:
0x240; LOGANA-1.ROM; LOGA; 21; LOGANA, pg 1; 0x7922945A; 01/22/18
0x241; LOGANA-2.ROM; ; 31; LOGANA, pg 2; 0x93FBB965; 01/22/18

Edit: It shows up in a CAT 2 listing as "PDC LOG 1"

Global labels in the ROM include NDS, RWA, TVD, CS1, TVX, TN1, WID, TTL, SSZ, NXC, PAR, DTA, RST, BAR, F23, F22, RUN, STS, SIZ, P/S, UNT, SVF, STF, Y/N, IN%, IN1, OT%, OT1, WRK, ERR, CLN, RTF, M-F, C-F, PHD, PHS, PPM, AS1.

Edit 2: Going on the photos on TAS I would say that this Log Analysis module and the "LOGA" image in the 41CL flash image are one and the same.
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06-15-2019, 12:46 PM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(06-15-2019 09:41 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  Edit 2: Going on the photos on TAS I would say that this Log Analysis module and the "LOGA" image in the 41CL flash image are one and the same.
Agreed. Thank you!
Now, I wonder what it does ;-)
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06-18-2019, 02:27 PM
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RE: HP-41C LOG PAC
(06-15-2019 09:41 AM)grsbanks Wrote:  Edit 2: Going on the photos on TAS I would say that this Log Analysis module and the "LOGA" image in the 41CL flash image are one and the same.

Completely agree!
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