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When did the ENTER arrow go? - Orome - 03-19-2020 10:56 PM

The [ENTER] key had an arrow at the start (in the very first 35) and kept it for a while, but the latest models don't have it. When did it disappear? Voyager?

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - twoweims - 03-20-2020 12:36 AM

On my 33s the ENTER key got so small that the arrow probably just fell off the edge. Smile

It was on the 41C but not on the 28C. I don't think there was anything in between but I am often mistaken...

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - Thomas Okken - 03-20-2020 01:06 AM

I'm pretty sure the Voyagers were the first with arrow-less ENTER keys.

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - cdmackay - 03-20-2020 01:46 AM

(03-20-2020 12:36 AM)twoweims Wrote:  It was on the 41C but not on the 28C. I don't think there was anything in between but I am often mistaken...

Włodek's book suggests these came in-between:

Voyagers
75/94
71B
18C

so looks like Thomas is spot on Smile

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - rprosperi - 03-20-2020 01:56 AM

(03-20-2020 01:06 AM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  I'm pretty sure the Voyagers were the first with arrow-less ENTER keys.

Actually the HP-10 in 1977 had no arrow on the Enter key, but that's because the HP-10 had no Enter key, however it did have a dedicated up-arrow key! Weirdest damn machine to come out of Corvallis ever.

So, yeah, Voyagers! Wink

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - twoweims - 03-20-2020 02:45 AM

Doh!
I forgot all about the Voyagers and my 15C is sitting right here on my desk !

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - Massimo Gnerucci - 03-20-2020 08:08 AM

(03-20-2020 01:56 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  
(03-20-2020 01:06 AM)Thomas Okken Wrote:  I'm pretty sure the Voyagers were the first with arrow-less ENTER keys.

Actually the HP-10 in 1977 had no arrow on the Enter key, but that's because the HP-10 had no Enter key, however it did have a dedicated up-arrow key! Weirdest damn machine to come out of Corvallis ever.

So, yeah, Voyagers! Wink

Well, you forgot the HP 80 then... Arrow, but no ENTER.

[Image: 80.jpg]

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - rprosperi - 03-20-2020 12:46 PM

(03-20-2020 08:08 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Well, you forgot the HP 80 then... Arrow, but no ENTER.

I initially was going to use this one (it's great of course as it shows it only took 1 machine to change their mind...) but decided the HP-10 is even more interesting, since most folks think the Pioneers (10B, 14B, 20S, etc.) were HP's first non-RPN machines. Read the manual for this one if you don't have one, it's a strange beast.

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - aurelio - 03-20-2020 01:03 PM

(03-20-2020 08:08 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  
(03-20-2020 01:56 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  Actually the HP-10 in 1977 had no arrow on the Enter key, but that's because the HP-10 had no Enter key, however it did have a dedicated up-arrow key! Weirdest damn machine to come out of Corvallis ever.

So, yeah, Voyagers! Wink

Well, you forgot the HP 80 then... Arrow, but no ENTER.
here is the one I was talking about in another post, two different kinds of arrow: in the 35 (except for the latest version), it seems drawed by hand[attachment=8190]

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - Massimo Gnerucci - 03-20-2020 02:18 PM

(03-20-2020 12:46 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  
(03-20-2020 08:08 AM)Massimo Gnerucci Wrote:  Well, you forgot the HP 80 then... Arrow, but no ENTER.
I initially was going to use this one (it's great of course as it shows it only took 1 machine to change their mind...) but decided the HP-10 is even more interesting, since most folks think the Pioneers (10B, 14B, 20S, etc.) were HP's first non-RPN machines.

Apart from some desktop machines and the HP-01.

(03-20-2020 12:46 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  Read the manual for this one if you don't have one, it's a strange beast.

I think I've got three of them, don't remember if I have a printed manual... should resort to a PDF.

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - rprosperi - 03-20-2020 04:50 PM

(03-20-2020 01:03 PM)aurelio Wrote:  here is the one I was talking about in another post, two different kinds of arrow: in the 35 (except for the latest version), it seems drawed by hand

Interesting, I'll have to check my 35, I don't recall that. It's interesting that the style of the up-arrow is toyally different from the style of the down-arrow a row above on the bezel.

RE: When did the ENTER arrow go? - aurelio - 03-20-2020 06:34 PM

(03-20-2020 04:50 PM)rprosperi Wrote:  
(03-20-2020 01:03 PM)aurelio Wrote:  here is the one I was talking about in another post, two different kinds of arrow: in the 35 (except for the latest version), it seems drawed by hand

Interesting, I'll have to check my 35, I don't recall that. It's interesting that the style of the up-arrow is toyally different from the style of the down-arrow a row above on the bezel.
and strange that in this prototype there is a "newer style" arrow [Image: 35proto.jpg]
and look a the others
[Image: 35fam6.jpg]
you can see all the arrow type used for the 35