HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
01-09-2019, 10:06 PM
Post: #1
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
It's the model that brought integration and root finding to pocket calculators for the first time.
Time to remember it. How better than to run it through its paces on your iPhone?

CuVee Software proudly announces RPN-34 CE, a full simulation of the HP-34C.

As with other CuVee products, the simulator works just like the original, but also offers additional features:
• 999 program steps (instead of 210, and even that only by sacrificing all register memory)
• 80 additional registers
• 31 additional instructions
• Live register view with single-stepping
• View, save, annotate, share programs
• Dramatically higher speed
• Preloaded with programs from HP's Applications books
• ... and much more

Check it out at cuveesoft.ch/rpn34
01-09-2019, 10:36 PM
Post: #2
 Thomas Klemm Senior Member Posts: 1,447 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-09-2019 10:06 PM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  Check it out at cuveesoft.ch/rpn34

Quote:Version History RPN-34 CE

1.0 – January 18, 2019
First public version.

The future is now.
01-09-2019, 10:40 PM
Post: #3
 Valentin Albillo Senior Member Posts: 651 Joined: Feb 2015
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
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Happy Anniversary, indeed !

I got an HP-34C early (some weeks before it was released back in 1979), courtesy of HP, in order to create an HP Solutions book for it, namely Advanced Math, to be offered to people who would buy the machine.

I co-wrote it with my friend FdR in time for the release, and it was really great fun to create and document the 20 quality programs included in the book (we each wrote 10), so much so that I came to love the HP-34C.

Its hardware wasn't really classic HP quality, that was immediately noticeable having owned an HP-25 and an HP-67, but the looks were fine and the instruction set and programming capabilities were awesome for the price, most especially the Solve an Integrate functionality, you could really write truly useful, complex programs on it.

So, again, Happy 40th Anniversary HP-34C ! ... And thanks for all the fun !

V.
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Find All My HP-related Materials here:  Valentin Albillo's HP Collection

01-09-2019, 11:22 PM
Post: #4
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-09-2019 10:36 PM)Thomas Klemm Wrote:
(01-09-2019 10:06 PM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  Check it out at cuveesoft.ch/rpn34

Quote:Version History RPN-34 CE

1.0 – January 18, 2019
First public version.

The future is now.

Argh – should have remembered that placeholder date... ;-(
Thanks for pointing it out.
01-10-2019, 04:33 AM
Post: #5
 rprosperi Senior Member Posts: 4,468 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
Some folks out here are still hoping for Android versions....someday. Just sayin...

--Bob Prosperi
01-10-2019, 08:38 AM
Post: #6
 Pekis Member Posts: 115 Joined: Aug 2014
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 04:33 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  Some folks out here are still hoping for Android versions....someday. Just sayin...

How could you ? You'll have to wait because Android only has a Market share of 80% in the Smartphone market ...
01-10-2019, 10:05 AM
Post: #7
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-09-2019 10:40 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:  .
I got an HP-34C early (some weeks before it was released back in 1979), courtesy of HP, in order to create an HP Solutions book for it, namely Advanced Math, to be offered to people who would buy the machine.

I co-wrote it with my friend FdR in time for the release, and it was really great fun to create and document the 20 quality programs included in the book (we each wrote 10), so much so that I came to love the HP-34C.

Thank you for the comment. Very interesting. Any idea if the Solutions Book is available anywhere online? Doesn't seem to be part of the HP Museum's DVD set I own.
01-10-2019, 10:09 AM
Post: #8
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 04:33 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  Some folks out here are still hoping for Android versions....someday. Just sayin...

There's only so much a single person can accomplish in a life-time... ;-(
01-10-2019, 10:17 AM
Post: #9
 John Cadick Member Posts: 120 Joined: Jan 2014
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 10:05 AM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:
(01-09-2019 10:40 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:  .
I got an HP-34C early (some weeks before it was released back in 1979), courtesy of HP, in order to create an HP Solutions book for it, namely Advanced Math, to be offered to people who would buy the machine.

I co-wrote it with my friend FdR in time for the release, and it was really great fun to create and document the 20 quality programs included in the book (we each wrote 10), so much so that I came to love the HP-34C.

Thank you for the comment. Very interesting. Any idea if the Solutions Book is available anywhere online? Doesn't seem to be part of the HP Museum's DVD set I own.

+1
01-10-2019, 02:23 PM
Post: #10
 rprosperi Senior Member Posts: 4,468 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 10:09 AM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  There's only so much a single person can accomplish in a life-time... ;-(

I know, and you've accomplished a lot! Just reminding you that a much larger audience of folks are still eager to enjoy some of those accomplishments too. But I get it, Apples and Oranges...

--Bob Prosperi
01-10-2019, 04:05 PM
Post: #11
 Massimo Gnerucci Senior Member Posts: 2,165 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 02:23 PM)rprosperi Wrote:
(01-10-2019 10:09 AM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  There's only so much a single person can accomplish in a life-time... ;-(

I know, and you've accomplished a lot! Just reminding you that a much larger audience of folks are still eager to enjoy some of those accomplishments too. But I get it, Apples and Oranges...

I knew about Clockwork Oranges, but Android Oranges?!?

;-)

Greetings,
Massimo

-+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong
01-10-2019, 09:44 PM
Post: #12
 Dieter Senior Member Posts: 2,397 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-09-2019 10:06 PM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  It's the model that brought integration and root finding to pocket calculators for the first time.
Time to remember it. How better than to run it through its paces on your iPhone?

By using the real thing, of course. ;-)
The 34C was my very first HP calculator.

Yes, Solve and Integrate were powerful new functions on the 34C. They have been thoroughly discussed, and the manual uses many pages for explaining their use, interpreting the results and more.

Which leads to the question how all this is done by RPN34. Especially the 34C integration routine is quite sophisticated, and I wonder if this is also true for the emulator. As far as I know the algorithm has never been published, so the details are unknown. So: what are the methods that are implemented in RPN34? I assume they are not identical to the original algorithms, so the results can differ.

Dieter
01-10-2019, 10:06 PM
Post: #13
 Valentin Albillo Senior Member Posts: 651 Joined: Feb 2015
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
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Hi Bob, Willy and John:

(01-10-2019 04:33 AM)rprosperi Wrote:  Some folks out here are still hoping for Android versions....someday. Just sayin...

I'm one of them. In particular I'd love (and would pay good money for) an Android version of J-F Garnier's magnificent Emu71 but, considering I've had no success whatsoever in getting him to release a 64-bit Windows version, I have no high expectations.

(01-10-2019 10:05 AM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  Thank you for the comment. Very interesting. Any idea if the Solutions Book is available anywhere online? Doesn't seem to be part of the HP Museum's DVD set I own.

You're welcome and thanks for your interest. And no, this HP-34C Solution Book "Advanced Math" is not included in the MoHP DVD set nor anywhere else AFAIK.

I was given two complimentary copies after it got printed and sent one of them to the Australian PPC Melbourne Chapter (which published tons of my contributions back then) and still keep the other to this day. I'm intent of making the contents available for free (of course!) but I recently lost my system and have no scanning capabilities at the moment.

Once Christmas is over I intend to do something about it ASAP. All else failing, I'll post the programs to the General Library one by one but this means considerable work and thus requires a lot of free time so it may take a while.

(01-10-2019 10:17 AM)John Cadick Wrote:  +1

Thanks for your interest. John.

Regards.
V.
.

Find All My HP-related Materials here:  Valentin Albillo's HP Collection

01-11-2019, 01:14 AM
Post: #14
 Sylvain Cote Senior Member Posts: 1,462 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
I have these original Spice/Spike manuals/qrg/booklets in my collection:
Code:
Product        Released  Model           Title -------------  --------  --------------  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Code:
5955-3015-B    Jul 1978                  Solving Problems with Your Hewlett-Packard Calculator 5955-5267-B    Aug 1980                  Solving Problems with Your Hewlett-Packard Calculator 5955-3016      Feb 1978                  Your HP Financial Calculator: An Introduction to Financial Concepts and Problem Solving 5955-5296      Nov 1980                  Your HP Financial Calculator: An Introduction to Financial Concepts and Problem Solving
Code:
00031-90001-B  Jul 1978  HP-31E          Owner's Handbook
Code:
00032-90001-B  Jul 1978  HP-32E          Owner's Handbook
Code:
00033-90001-B  Jul 1978  HP-33E          Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide 00033-90039    Apr 1979  HP-33E/33C      Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide 00033-90013    Mar 1978  HP-33E          Quick Reference Card 00033-90053    Sep 1971  HP-33E/33C      Quick Reference Card 00033-90024    Feb 1978  HP-33E          Applications 00033-90067    May 1979  HP-33E/33C      Applications 00033-90030    Nov 1979  HP-33E/33C      Mathematics Applications 00033-90031    Feb 1978  HP-33E          Statistics Applications 00033-90032    Apr 1978  HP-33E          Student Engineering Applications 00033-90033    Mar 1978  HP-33E          Surveying Applications
Code:
00034-90001-B  Apr 1980  HP-34C          Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide 00034-90041    Jun 1979  HP-34C          Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide Addendum 00034-90012    May 1979  HP-34C          Quick Reference Card 00034-90022    May 1979  HP-34C          Applications 00034-90022-B  Oct 1980  HP-34C          Applications 00034-90032    Sep 1979  HP-34C          Mathematics Applications 00034-90033    Sep 1978  HP-34C          Statistics Applications 00034-90034    Aug 1978  HP-34C          Surveying Applications 00034-90034-B  Jun 1981  HP-34C          Surveying Applications 00034-90035    Aug 1978  HP-34C          Student Engineering Applications
Code:
00037-90001-C  Feb 1978  HP-37E          Owner's Handbook
Code:
00038-90001    Mar 1978  HP-38E          Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide 00038-90038-B  Aug 1980  HP-38E/38C      Owner's Handbook and Programming Guide 00038-90013    Mar 1978  HP-38E          Quick Reference Card 00038-90056    Apr 1979  HP-38E/38C      Quick Reference Card 00038-90024-C  Sep 1979  HP-37E/38E/38C  Real Estate Applications 00038-90025-D  Sep 1979  HP-37E/38E/38C  Lending, Saving and Leasing Applications 00038-90026-C  Nov 1979  HP-37E/38E/38C  Investment Analysis and Statistics Applications for Business Professionals and Students 00038-90049    May 1979  HP-37E/38E/38C  Marketing and Forecasting Applications 00038-90051    Jul 1979  HP-37E/38E/38C  Real Estate II Applications 00038-90052    Jul 1979  HP-38E/38C      Personal Finance Applications

If you are interested, I could do a 200 DPI color scan of them and made them available in the articles forum.

Sylvain
01-11-2019, 03:07 AM
Post: #15
 Matt Agajanian Senior Member Posts: 496 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
Just picked up the app and I am quite pleased with its enhanced programmability, functionality as well as having all app packs included. Excellent job, Willy!
01-11-2019, 04:39 AM
Post: #16
 Jake Schwartz Member Posts: 268 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-09-2019 10:40 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:  .
Happy Anniversary, indeed !

I got an HP-34C early (some weeks before it was released back in 1979), courtesy of HP, in order to create an HP Solutions book for it, namely Advanced Math, to be offered to people who would buy the machine.

So, again, Happy 40th Anniversary HP-34C ! ... And thanks for all the fun !

V.
.

In the PPC Journal V6N5P18 (August 1979) in the article "HP-34C - A Brief Review", the initial paragraph starts out with the statement "On August 15, 1979 Hewlett-Packard announced a new scientific programmable calculator called the HP-34C." Based on this, we've still got a few months to go for that anniversary. Just sayin'.....

Thanks,
Jake
01-11-2019, 06:52 AM
Post: #17
 Massimo Gnerucci Senior Member Posts: 2,165 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-11-2019 04:39 AM)Jake Schwartz Wrote:
(01-09-2019 10:40 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:  .
Happy Anniversary, indeed !

I got an HP-34C early (some weeks before it was released back in 1979), courtesy of HP, in order to create an HP Solutions book for it, namely Advanced Math, to be offered to people who would buy the machine.

So, again, Happy 40th Anniversary HP-34C ! ... And thanks for all the fun !

V.
.

In the PPC Journal V6N5P18 (August 1979) in the article "HP-34C - A Brief Review", the initial paragraph starts out with the statement "On August 15, 1979 Hewlett-Packard announced a new scientific programmable calculator called the HP-34C." Based on this, we've still got a few months to go for that anniversary. Just sayin'.....

Thanks,
Jake

And we have another event - much more important, at least to me - on schedule just before this... ;-)

Greetings,
Massimo

-+×÷ ↔ left is right and right is wrong
01-11-2019, 09:31 AM
Post: #18
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 10:06 PM)Valentin Albillo Wrote:  (...)

(01-10-2019 10:05 AM)Willy R. Kunz Wrote:  Thank you for the comment. Very interesting. Any idea if the Solutions Book is available anywhere online? Doesn't seem to be part of the HP Museum's DVD set I own.

You're welcome and thanks for your interest. And no, this HP-34C Solution Book "Advanced Math" is not included in the MoHP DVD set nor anywhere else AFAIK.

I was given two complimentary copies after it got printed and sent one of them to the Australian PPC Melbourne Chapter (which published tons of my contributions back then) and still keep the other to this day. I'm intent of making the contents available for free (of course!) but I recently lost my system and have no scanning capabilities at the moment.

Once Christmas is over I intend to do something about it ASAP. All else failing, I'll post the programs to the General Library one by one but this means considerable work and thus requires a lot of free time so it may take a while.
Regards.
V.
.

Really looking forward to it. Thanks, Valentin.
01-11-2019, 09:58 AM
Post: #19
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-10-2019 09:44 PM)Dieter Wrote:  Yes, Solve and Integrate were powerful new functions on the 34C. They have been thoroughly discussed, and the manual uses many pages for explaining their use, interpreting the results and more.

Which leads to the question how all this is done by RPN34. Especially the 34C integration routine is quite sophisticated, and I wonder if this is also true for the emulator. As far as I know the algorithm has never been published, so the details are unknown. So: what are the methods that are implemented in RPN34? I assume they are not identical to the original algorithms, so the results can differ.

Dieter

According to the HP Journal Aug 1980, they used "a Romberg method", adding that "several refinements were found necessary". They go into some detail about how they produced nonuniformly spaced nodes in order to suppress resonance or aliasing. Finally, they (proudly) compare their solution with other integrators. Fascinating reading.

RPN-34 CE relies on Gauss-Legendre quadrature formulas of high-orders, along with high-precision abscissas and weights stored in tables. The display format does not affect the precision, so the uncertainty value the HP-34 returns in the Y register doesn't apply to RPN-34.
01-11-2019, 10:35 AM
Post: #20
 Willy R. Kunz Member Posts: 101 Joined: Dec 2013
RE: HP-34C – Happy Anniversary!
(01-11-2019 01:14 AM)Sylvain Cote Wrote:  I have these original Spice/Spike manuals/qrg/booklets in my collection:
Code:
Product        Released  Model           Title -------------  --------  --------------  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 00034-90034-B  Jun 1981  HP-34C          Surveying Applications 00034-90035    Aug 1978  HP-34C          Student Engineering Applications

If you are interested, I could do a 200 DPI color scan of them and made them available in the articles forum.

Sylvain

Hi Sylvain,
thank you so much for the offer. I'd love to include the programs in the booklets above in an update of RPN-34 CE. You may also send the scans directly to my contact address on cuveesoft.ch, if you wish.
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