Hi all,
Looking through this thread:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-418.html
and this blog:
http://persistent-tech.blogspot.com.au/2...ncial.html
I see no mention of units being manufactured in the Philippines, but I have a Platinum that was manufactured there. It has the two CR 2032 batteries, and a black key background, and includes the parenthesis, backspace etc. The back is not printed on like earlier models, but has the metal type plate.
Anyone have any ideas where these fit in along the timeline of manufacture?
Regards,
Zac
(07-22-2017 12:09 AM)Zac Bruce Wrote: [ -> ]Hi all,
Looking through this thread: http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-418.html
and this blog: http://persistent-tech.blogspot.com.au/2...ncial.html
I see no mention of units being manufactured in the Philippines, but I have a Platinum that was manufactured there. It has the two CR 2032 batteries, and a black key background, and includes the parenthesis, backspace etc. The back is not printed on like earlier models, but has the metal type plate.
Anyone have any ideas where these fit in along the timeline of manufacture?
Regards,
Zac
Production in the Philippines only began a few years ago at most, which is also consistent with a 2-battery wide door on a 12CP.
Thanks Bob.
Are they (12c and platinum) all now manufactured in Philippines rather than China?
I've been using my Chinese made platinum with the silver key background as my daily but if the Philippines ones are the current lot I think I'll switch to using that and keep the other one as part of my collection. Would hate to damage or lose the silver one as it would be difficult to replace.
Thanks again,
Zac
(07-22-2017 02:03 AM)Zac Bruce Wrote: [ -> ]Are they (12c and platinum) all now manufactured in Philippines rather than China?
I've been using my Chinese made platinum with the silver key background as my daily but if the Philippines ones are the current lot I think I'll switch to using that and keep the other one as part of my collection. Would hate to damage or lose the silver one as it would be difficult to replace.
I honestly don't know about production sites, but I'll ask Tim at HHC in September.
The Silver 12CP machines were produced for a couple years, so somewhat available, but the black-faced versions are far more numerous. I'd 'retire' the Silver 12CP to the collection.
Also, the newer versions use MUCH faster processors; this is dramatically noticeable with programs, but not so much in real-time number-crunching, except if you're solving for interest rate (which is iterative) which can take a moment on the older machines.
Zac,
To give you an idea of what they look like, here is an old
picture of my Voyager collection.
Sylvain
Sylvan,
Have to admit just a little jealousy.
Dave,
I had come across that blue keyed photo before and fell in love/lust. I think from memory there was only 3 made?
I might be wrong but I think the Bondi had no parenthesis, backspace, despite being a platinum? I also read that it had "bugs" and the algebraic wasn't fully implemented but don't know the specifics. My silver backed one is the other model.
(07-22-2017 06:05 AM)Keith Midson Wrote: [ -> ]Here you go - my collection of 12C's. I don't recall having one that was made in the Philippines though.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmidso...586986282/
Keith
Hi Keith,
I hadn't seen your post before my last reply. Somehow I had come across your collection before, it's very impressive. I don't think I'll ever be able to gather together such a large collection, but I'll be happy to pick up what I can.
I just bought an original 12c on ebay (australia) from a guy that use to work for HP; he is the original owner but just doesn't need it any more. It's a little beaten up but he says that it was the calculator that he carried "in the field" for a long time. I've just bid on a near perfect 19bii that he is selling as well, with it's original carry pouch and manual.
I'll have to ask him what he actually did for HP, he said he bought several of the clamshell HP's
after his retirement, and said those were what he was using almost exclusively at work in his final years. I see that he just recently sold a 28c, a 620lx and an OmniGo100. So he has stayed loyal to HP's products for a long time. Makes me wonder what else he's got laying around his house...
Zac
I believe there is at least one more version of the so-called "12C+" that has been out in the wild since ~ late 2015. The CPU was changed to the SAM4L series, with more details discussed starting with
this post and photos in
this post. Even though things still look the same externally, does it warrant its own entry on the list?
(07-22-2017 02:39 PM)Sylvain Cote Wrote: [ -> ] (07-22-2017 03:48 AM)Dave Frederickson Wrote: [ -> ]What's the difference between the 12CPS Bondi and the 12d-pt?
Code:
Model TSCFB Begin-End Site Battery Type CPU Comments
---------------------- ----- ---------- ----------- ------- ------- -------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
HP-12C Black WBYKG 1980-1995 A/S/B/M 3x357 RPN 1LF5-0301/1LM2-0001/LQ9-0322/1RR2-0001 not clear which of the 4 CPU is with this line or the next
HP-12C Black WBYKG 1996-200? US/SG/MY 3x357 RPN 1LF5-0301/1LM2-0001/LQ9-0322/1RR2-0001 end of prod. is before 2004
HP-12C Black WBYKG 200?-2004 CN 1x2032 RPN 2AF1-0001 *begin of prod. is before 2004
HP-12C Black WBYKG 2004-2009 CN/CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN SPLB20D *
HP-12C Platinum Silver WBOSS 2003-2005 CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D has bugs, Bondi
HP-12C Prestige Gold WBOGG 2003-2005 CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D *has bugs, Bondi for Brazil
Code:
HP-12C Platinum Silver WBOSS 2005-2006 CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D has parenthesis, backspace & undo, based on 17BII+, 12D-PT
HP-12C Prestige Gold WBOGG 2005-2006 CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D has parenthesis, backspace & undo, based on 17BII+, 12D-PT for Brazil
HP-12C Platinum Black WBOKS 2005-2010 CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D *has parenthesis, backspace & undo, based on 17BII+
HP-12C 25th Ed. WBRKS 2006-2006 CNA/4CY 1x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D has parenthesis, backspace & undo, based on 17BII+
HP-12C 12+ WBNKG 2009-today CNA/4CY 2x2032 RPN AT91SAM7L128
HP-12C 30th Ed. Black WBNKG 2011-2011 CNA/4CY 2x2032 RPN AT91SAM7L128
HP-12C Platinum Black WBRKS 2010-today CNA/4CY/PHA 2x2032 RPN+ALG SPLB20D has parenthesis, backspace & undo
Code:
DM12CC White WBYNW 2012-2012 CH 1x2032 RPN LPC1114 made by SwissMicros, credit-card size
DM12 Silver WBYNS 2012-today CH 1x2032 RPN LPC1115 made by SwissMicros, credit-card size
DM12L Black WBLNS 2015-today CH 1x2032 RPN LPC1115 made by SwissMicros, original size
TSCFB
Code:
T : top key writing color | S : side key writing color | C : faceplate writing color | F : faceplate color | B : top bazel color
Color code
Code:
B:Blue | G:Gold | K:blacK | L:Light-yellow-green | N:browN | O:Orange | R:Red | S:Silver | W:White | Y:Yellow
Manufacturing sites
Code:
1 letter code | A : America (USA) | B : Brazil | G : Germany | J : Japan | M : Malaysia | S : Singapore |
2 letters code | CH : Switzerland | CN : China | ID : Indonesia | SG : Singapore | US : USA | |
3 letters code | 4CY : Invertec China | CNA : Kimpo China | PHA : Philippines | | | |
References